OK how about Karma?

SaiFightsMS · KF VIP

How about karma? Do you believe the things we do come back to us or influence events in our future?

Jack · Black Belt

I don't personally believe in Karma itself, although I do think that positive or negative things you do can come back to you, but only as a result of a chain of events, not because of some mystic Karma. I also of course mean things happening in the same life. I'm sure I'll be able to explain more when I've woken up

Jiggy9 · Purple Belt

I can tell this thread might just lead to some more heated conversations!

Yes I personally do believe in Karma. It's probably because I've had a great deal of exposure to it and spent alot of time in my life studying the topic.

KickChick · Black Belt

I could see it coming too Jiggy! Karma also involves the belief of reincarnation too. If good or evil comes to you, it is because of something you did in this or a previous lifetime. It sure would explain alot of life's injustices wouldn't it?
It would explain why good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people. Everybody is getting what they deserve. The untimely death or brutilization of a child ... or a rape victim is just getting what they deserve ... the mentally ill, the handicap, all deserve their fate for evil they must have done in the past (or in a prior life). All suffering is deserved, according to the law of karma.
If we believe in karma then it is not free will that leads people to kill one another. Everybody is just playing out their karma. Nobody is really good or evil. Nobody is really responsible for anything they do.

Instead of pleading insanity now we can plead it was karma that made me do it!

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[ This Message was edited by: KickChick on 2002-01-12 08:24 ]

Piastre · Yellow Belt

I tend to agree with the above!
While life seems to have a certain serendipitous way of meting out rough justice to those who deserve it, there's an awful lot of terrible people who must have been saints in their previous incarnations because they're cruising this this one! LOL
I'll reserve judgement on the whole karma thing.

ramcalgary · Blue Belt

I luv it "karma made me do it"

sorry boss could not work today i had to go to the gym Why?

Sorry dear i did not go grocery shopping Why?

Thx kickchick now i have the one excuse that my wife can never doubt....

Joecooke007 · Brown Belt

I believe not in karma but in Chi or Ki. I don't believe in reincarnation but i do belive that you have an energy about you that you can harness for power. You should always use your ki wisely especially if it become tan tien. A focused blast from either of these is capable of killing.

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Jiggy9 · Purple Belt

That is a good point Kickchick, actually it is a classic.

'Karma made me do it'; The most common question which is always raised is if everyone is acting in accord to their Karma then there is no free will....and if there is no free will then how can one do good or bad and create their next/new karma. In which case no one would have any karma after a couple of lives - Then Karma wouldnt exist.... It makes no sense!

But a closer look into the principles of Karma could help out. Something thats reffered to often as the "Action - Reaction" theory.

What Karma creates in ones life is situations.

For example you accidentaly trip and spill coffee on youre favourite suit or dress ...that was youre karma. It created a situation (or you could refer to this as the Karmic Action).

But now how you 'React' to this situation is totally and uterlly in youre own hands. You could get really * off at the step you tripped on and take out youre anger on everyone, or you could laugh it off. There are endless possiblities to how you could handle the situation. This is what creates the new Karma....if you chose the first option and became extremely moody for the rest of the day you may create 'bad' Karma for yourself or you could take the situation to make a few jokes with youre friends and learn from it, you may create 'good' Karma for yourself.

So what Im saying is, that Karma doesnt control or make you do things, it presents oppurtunities and situations to you. How you react governs youre future Karma.

How you cope with it is in youre hands - You are in control of youre own fate and destiny, any way you look at it.

The following is just to appease you guys...

In accord with eastern philosophys, life is not about gaining good karma. It is about losing all of youre karma, be it good and bad. It is about diminishing everyday...

To acheive 'nirvana' or 'moksha' one must have , a balance of no karma - no karma left means that you need not have another life - hence moksha where you can remain in spiritual energy foreva. If you can get youre head around that.

[ This Message was edited by: Jiggy9 on 2002-01-13 10:16 ]

Jiggy9 · Purple Belt

I'd also like to add ..

Life is not neccessarily just a series or youre reactions to situations, but the second aspect...Is that you can create new actions at any time you like.

You can pick up a knife and stab yourself, you could scratch youre head or rob a bank, you could do absolutely anything phyiscally possible ...but not as a reaction to Karma but as a brand new Action creating Karma.

This is a particulary important aspect when you are discussing the karma involved with more then 1 person.

SaiFightsMS · KF VIP

I really didn't think of this as another topic to start fights with when I asked.

But, I do think open discussion is a good thing - regardless of any posters belief.

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