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Montana
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Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Posts: 308
Location: Formerly Montana, now Spokane, WA
Styles: Shorin Ryu Matsumura Kenpo & Kobudo

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Truestar wrote:
To me that screams McDojo.

A black belt should not be centered around a fee. If the money is the only thing holding someone from a test that instructor better get his/her head on straight and get that person tested. A black belt means much more than the ability to pay the fee.


Agreed on all counts.
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sensei8
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Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 1995

Styles: Shindokan Karate-Do [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been many times in the past that I've NOT CHARGED a student for the Yudansha testing fee because a student couldn't afford it. Not because my testing fees are high, because there not, it's just that some students can barely afford the monthly, and again, my monthly fees aren't high. Shoot, when I took over the Shindokan Hombu, I lowered ALL of the prices because I felt it was the thing to do, especially in our current economic situation. As a matter of fact, the Hombu doesn't charge any testing fees...Kyu/Dan!

What's more important to a martial artist....Knowledge or the belt? KNOWLEDGE!


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KarateGeorge
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Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Posts: 446

Styles: Shuri-te Karate, Wing Chun

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that definitely sounds shady to me as well.

A martial arts school is a business, so I would certainly expect there to be costs involved with training. However, in my opinion, it's something that should be understood up front. If a school isn't being up front about their fees, then I would just go somewhere else. There are plenty of other schools out there where you can know what to expect for your costs to train.
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Ichi_Geki
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Joined: 29 Nov 2009
Posts: 316

Styles: Director of Fudoshin Machi Dojo

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I host three camps...and they are all free...to my students and to others.

Dansha - Its a summer camp that only has Dan level holders participating

Kangeiko - A winter camp in November where we train outside in the snow.

And

Hatsu Geiko - New yrs training this is a week long camp and its open to all styles, we have training seminars from my school and others and at the end of this new yrs training we have a tournament.


For dan testing...I have my students donate what they can to the school for new equipment if they can afford to. If not...the test requires no cash...for my kyu levels same difference.
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WireFrame
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Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Posts: 213

Styles: Shotokan

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As important as a degree!? I understand that the people dedicated enough to train for black belt see it as very important, but it's probably not going to help you get a job unless you go professional instructor or something. You know your priorities better than they do.
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