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position of fist, on the hip or on the rib?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndrewGreen wrote:
no, I mean yours. getting hit in it sucks, so better put something in the way.


hehehe, true.

Personally, I'd rather put a block in the way. :p
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting back to the original question, I recently had the opportunity to watch a Kung Fu class (don't ask which style, I don't know). As the class went through their warm up, basics and on to forms, I noticed they chambered their fists at the hip. It's easy to see why Okinawan styles would chamber the fist in the same location. As fighting styles migrated north through the Japanese archipelago, so too did the chambered fist.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okinawan styles vary, some are hip, some are ribs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndrewGreen wrote:
Okinawan styles vary, some are hip, some are ribs.

doh.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that is more because of instructor preference than anything else.
I have been taught both way for the same system by different instructors.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My experience has shown that typically Goju-Ryu schools chamber at the ribs, while TKD schools chamber at the hip.

Personally, I like chambering at the ribs because it gets you in the mindset to get your hands up. And if you've ever taught a new student to fight, dropping their hands and lack of controlled breathing are all too common!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have nothing to do with the Goju Ryu whatever stuff... but I'm inclined to go ahead and recommend keeping your hand in front of your face, before someone like me hits you there. Repeatedly.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While indeed this will have some clear advantages, recognise that there are also advantages to chambering the fist too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how-ever you do it, recognise that part of that positioning is purely to do with training your general movement and doesn't always equate 100% to what you do in a fight.
as cited before in other posts, that chambering can be taken to be the general withdrawing movement be it a pull of their arm or a withdraw from feeling a pull from them. A high extension also gets you working your arm/shoulders more during training and hence working on the "looseness" of your arm/shoulders.
the position also does different things to your punch as it acts as a theoritical starting point for your punch.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jiffy wrote:
While indeed this will have some clear advantages, recognise that there are also advantages to chambering the fist too.


Eh? What possible advantage could there be from chambering the fist? Additional power? That won't happen if you know how to punch. Getting punched in the face more? That will. Slightly slowing your punches? That will too.
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