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Shizentai
Blue Belt
Joined: 01 Mar 2009
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Styles: karate
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I like knuckle pushups.
What I hate is standing still in super low stances for twenty minutes at a time. This kind of punishment to me is the most unbearable.
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Ozpunker
Orange Belt
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
Posts: 100
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Styles: Kaizen Ryu Freestyle Karate
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I believe this kind of punishment is reserved for bad behaviour, not making mistakes in learning a technique.
Talking in class, or not giving attention to instructor: 10 push ups. (or similar)
Repeated offence: 20 push ups
Repeated again: 50 push ups |
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Dobie1979
Orange Belt
Joined: 13 Apr 2010
Posts: 151
Location: MI
Styles: Shorin Ryu Karate, JJJ and BJJ
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I've been helping out with instructing and I usually never hand out punishment. Its just not my style. I seem to get the attention and results i need without punishment.. I'm not sure why, its just the case. |
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evergrey
Brown Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
Posts: 734
Styles: kyokushin
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I haven't ever, when I've been tasked with teaching a white belt something, given an adult a punishment. I have given a kid a punishment of push-ups. He was trying to bully another kid.
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sensei8
KF Sempai
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 5119
Location: Owasso, OK and Van Nuys, CA
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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| evergrey wrote: |
| I haven't ever, when I've been tasked with teaching a white belt something, given an adult a punishment. I have given a kid a punishment of push-ups. He was trying to bully another kid. |
You will, maybe not today, but you will. After all, I don't consider push-ups as a punishment; their an attitude adjusters plus they keep students in great shape.
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sensei8
KF Sempai
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 5119
Location: Owasso, OK and Van Nuys, CA
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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I was just thinking to myself...
I outrank Greg, however, we're both Hachidans, with that, I therefore outrank the other remaining Hachidans as well, so, having said that...
Is it my right/obligation, in the context of any formal training session, to issue push-ups for "punishment" to the other Hachidans??
Just asking for discussion...
Oh, how do I outrank the other Hachidans? Tenure.
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evergrey
Brown Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
Posts: 734
Styles: kyokushin
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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OSU Bob,
If you do that, I would love to see a video of what happens, lolol!
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DoctorQui
Blue Belt
Joined: 24 May 2012
Posts: 314
Location: Gt Manchester, UK
Styles: Shotokan, Wado Ryu and Aikido
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| Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:06 am Post subject: |
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I was just thinking to myself...
I outrank Greg, however, we're both Hachidans, with that, I therefore outrank the other remaining Hachidans as well, so, having said that...
Is it my right/obligation, in the context of any formal training session, to issue push-ups for "punishment" to the other Hachidans??
Just asking for discussion...
Oh, how do I outrank the other Hachidans? Tenure.
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In that situation, given the amount of dedication, understanding and discipline displayed to get to this rank, would mean that there is also a degree of respect between the ranks. There would or should be no reason that any senior rank should be 'punished' in the Dojo, imo!
The reason for my thread was mainly to do with discipline in the Dojo and how it is maintained. We've all been in a Dojo situation where the juniors are giggling with each other or talking when a senior rank is demonstrating or just not paying attention. I consider it prudent that in order to teach a young karateka the importance of listening and watching, that there should be penalties.
My main point was, should Adults be dished 'physical exercise' as a punishment for not being able to hear (not many adults choose not to listen when they are paying to be taught!) or making a mistake (adults while they tend to listen and learn quickly, also find coordination more difficult to learn, imo) just because it is the 'way' of the Dojo to point and shout 'you, 10 press ups!' when the instructor feels like it, which is more often than not subjective amongst instructors.
As I said before, yes for kids who need to learn to listen, no for adults who are there out of choice rather than a parent taking them and paying for them. |
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MasterPain
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Posts: 1822
Location: Parts Unknown
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Psycho Drive and Spanish Ninjitsu
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Our new guy showed up a little late the other night, so I told him when he came in "You're late, that's 1000 jabs on the speed bag." I was rather surprised when he nether laughed or told me off, but just started jabbing the bag. So I asked him just what he was doing, to which he replied '1000 jabs" I had to let the guy know I was joking. I may be a half decent combative arts teacher, but there is no way that it is my place in life to hand out penalties to a Marine who's been hit with an IED. Now that I think of it, maybe the Marine life made the idea of such a penalty seem normal to him.
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JusticeZero
Black Belt
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 2029
Location: New Orleans, LA
Styles: Capoeira Angola
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| Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:58 am Post subject: |
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I can see applying something for being late, because there are a lot of adults that see nothing wrong with being habitually late. Low stance stuff maybe.
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on the post.
