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masterintraining
Orange Belt
Joined: 07 Jul 2006
Posts: 178
Location: i am standing right behind you
Styles: currently mantis kungfu and some karate
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 Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: question i cant get out my head |
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okay these things have been botherin me for a while so a want to get these questions answered finally.
1.) ive been training in kung-fu for 3 1/2 years know and i luv it but wat i dont get is y i sparr so well with my sifu( by well i meen great technique)
and wen i dont sparr with him my technqiue is not as great. i feel like a pro with sifu and a novice without. idk if this is cuz im usd to sparring with him or what. i meen i execute locks, throws, takedowns. etc. beutifully with him but sadly its only with him. it makes me doubt if i can even defend myself the same way in a real confrontation the way i sparr in class.
2.) i have also been to sum tournies and find that i sparr rather naturally but i wantd to change it cuz i felt it was rather sloppy and did not look like black sash/belt sparring.
3.) iz it even possible to sparr like a blac sash/belt in a no holds barr full contact match the same way u would in a point match. i know that ud use more grappling and locks etc. but i meen can ur core move sets be the same for both.
4.) if u hav any video links to show me actual kungfu full contact matches id be very greatful.
am i doing sumthin wrong or iz it me jus reacting to how my sifu sparrs.
please try to answer these questions in numerical order.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 11994
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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1. Perhaps you need to spend more time sparring with others to correct this problem. Is the sparring you do with your sifu a bit slower?
2. If you are sparring naturally, then I don't think I would worry about changing much, especially if you are successful. Just keep working on refining your technique in practice, and try to add one or two things at a time in your training, so you don't get overwhelmed.
3. When you talk about fighting in general, you are talking about trying to thrive in chaos. When you do this, you can't just bend every situation to your will, and then execute your perfect technique. I think that MMA tends to mimic this "chaos" rather well. Don't worry about looking good, just worry about effectiveness.
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masterintraining
Orange Belt
Joined: 07 Jul 2006
Posts: 178
Location: i am standing right behind you
Styles: currently mantis kungfu and some karate
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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1. Perhaps you need to spend more time sparring with others to correct this problem. Is the sparring you do with your sifu a bit slower?
2. If you are sparring naturally, then I don't think I would worry about changing much, especially if you are successful. Just keep working on refining your technique in practice, and try to add one or two things at a time in your training, so you don't get overwhelmed.
3. When you talk about fighting in general, you are talking about trying to thrive in chaos. When you do this, you can't just bend every situation to your will, and then execute your perfect technique. I think that MMA tends to mimic this "chaos" rather well. Don't worry about looking
good, just worry about effectiveness. |
yes the sparring i do with sifu iz slow at 1st then we pick up speed
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe you should start out at fast speed, and try to adapt everything from there.
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Kajukenbopr
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 18 Jun 2005
Posts: 921
Styles: Kajukenbo - Emperado Method
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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ah, so u know his movements already....
you have practiced so much with him, his movements aren't new to you.
start practicing with other people, at various speeds, and train to be exact, not quick.
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Johnlogic121
Orange Belt
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
Posts: 156
Styles: Montgomery Style Karate, Ninjutsu, Isshinryu, Judo, Mang Chaun Kung Fu, Kempo
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:11 am Post subject: Sparring with Sifu |
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Your Kung Fu instructor may be using just enough resistance with you when you are sparring with him so that you can try advanced things like armlocks, throws, and takedowns. If he gave you too much resistance, you wouldn't be able to build up practice using those skills, and it would only deter your confidence. I recommend that you talk the matter over with him and I would encourage you to honestly ask him if he is going easy on you so that you can get valuable practice time in. Maybe he could agree to show you high resistance one time so you could feel what it is like before going back to a lowered resistance. I think you'll find that he is actually helping you learn by giving you his own body to practice on. That's really very generous of him. If you had 100% resistance from a training partner all the time, even simple strikes would be relatively hard to make. As for me, I would prefer a gradually increasing level of intensity until I built up enough skill and confidence to be able to withstand high resistance from my partner.
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ying&yang
Purple Belt
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Posts: 513
Location: melbourne
Styles: JKD , and 15 others
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: |
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1: you need to spar with others to develop you skill because every oppoent is different.
2:If the sparing is coming naturally to you then that is great i wouldn't worry about changing.
3:Well i wouldn't do it but what ever is comfortable for you and helps you win then u should do that. But i would think of the situation at hand and my oppoent then attact with the correct move.
4:No sorry i have no videos
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PunchYourFACE
Yellow Belt
Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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Styles: Freestyle / Wing Chun
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Try search Youtube for the videos, theres heaps there.
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on the post.
