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sensei8
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good grief! Who would want to wonder what style of the Martial Arts is the easiest/fastest way to obtain a black belt? If someone asked me this while visiting my Dojo, I'd say..."Not my style! Try down the street."

Care only about obtaining an effective and viable knowledge base; not rank and the swiftest way to get that said rank, therefore, rank means nothing! Proof is always found on the floor!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sensei8 wrote:
Good grief! Who would want to wonder what style of the Martial Arts is the easiest/fastest way to obtain a black belt? If someone asked me this while visiting my Dojo, I'd say..."Not my style! Try down the street."

Care only about obtaining an effective and viable knowledge base; not rank and the swiftest way to get that said rank, therefore, rank means nothing! Proof is always found on the floor!



Because it is the american way of wanting things...hot and ready and out the door...in my dojo I only guarantee that the door is always open...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is really hard to answer because styles vary so drastically. For example, in BJJ it usually takes between 8 and ten years to earn a black belt. However, Matt Sera did it in 3 years under Renzo Gracie.

I managed it in one year in our shotokan school. But I had alot of prior training in other arts.

I would say that the vast majority of schools are between 3 and 5 years though.
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sensei8
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Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traymond wrote:
sensei8 wrote:
Good grief! Who would want to wonder what style of the Martial Arts is the easiest/fastest way to obtain a black belt? If someone asked me this while visiting my Dojo, I'd say..."Not my style! Try down the street."

Care only about obtaining an effective and viable knowledge base; not rank and the swiftest way to get that said rank, therefore, rank means nothing! Proof is always found on the floor!



Because it is the american way of wanting things...hot and ready and out the door...in my dojo I only guarantee that the door is always open...

I hear ya' and I concur with you!


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sensei8
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ps1 wrote:
This is really hard to answer because styles vary so drastically. For example, in BJJ it usually takes between 8 and ten years to earn a black belt. However, Matt Sera did it in 3 years under Renzo Gracie.

I managed it in one year in our shotokan school. But I had alot of prior training in other arts.

I would say that the vast majority of schools are between 3 and 5 years though.

Mike Stone/Joe Lewis earned their black belts in 6/7 months respective!


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Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traymond wrote:
sensei8 wrote:
Good grief! Who would want to wonder what style of the Martial Arts is the easiest/fastest way to obtain a black belt? If someone asked me this while visiting my Dojo, I'd say..."Not my style! Try down the street."

Care only about obtaining an effective and viable knowledge base; not rank and the swiftest way to get that said rank, therefore, rank means nothing! Proof is always found on the floor!



Because it is the american way of wanting things...hot and ready and out the door...in my dojo I only guarantee that the door is always open...


I don't see this as that big of a deal where I am at. I don't have students coming to me about how much longer it is going to take, or any of that. I think that it is unfair to state that Americans want things the cheap and easy way all the time. I don't think that other cultures are immune to this.
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sensei8
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bushido_man96 wrote:
Traymond wrote:
sensei8 wrote:
Good grief! Who would want to wonder what style of the Martial Arts is the easiest/fastest way to obtain a black belt? If someone asked me this while visiting my Dojo, I'd say..."Not my style! Try down the street."

Care only about obtaining an effective and viable knowledge base; not rank and the swiftest way to get that said rank, therefore, rank means nothing! Proof is always found on the floor!



Because it is the american way of wanting things...hot and ready and out the door...in my dojo I only guarantee that the door is always open...


I don't see this as that big of a deal where I am at. I don't have students coming to me about how much longer it is going to take, or any of that. I think that it is unfair to state that Americans want things the cheap and easy way all the time. I don't think that other cultures are immune to this.

I hear what you all are saying!

So, if somone asks me this question again, I'm going to say...

"It takes 3 -5 days to get a black belt!" I'd say.
"What?" a shocked person might say.
"Yeah, Century can send you a black belt via UPS in about 3-5 days ground." I'll respond.
"Funny! Ha Ha!" a person might say back to me.
"Well, a black belt via the mail or a black belt wanted in a real hurry are the same thing...meaningless!" I'd say, imho.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alot of things come into play.
Quickest way to get one is to buy one.
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Nobodysaidbella
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Styles: American Shotokan/MMA

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No black belt should be easy or fast. If you get a black belt, it better not take you less then 4 years, else you haven't gotten a real black belt. TKD schools that give out black belts in 2 years are probably Mcdojos.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No black belt should be easy or fast.

Let's, for just a moment, forget the black belt; NO belt, no matter its color, should be easy or fast!


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