|
|
Sai Illegal in NYS
|
Yes |
|
100% |
[ 1 ] |
No |
|
0% |
[ 0 ] |
|
| Total Votes : 1 |
|
| Author |
Message |
Shamrockmc2
White Belt

Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 1
|
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:33 am Post subject: Sai Illegal OR legal |
|
|
I have been finding sites that will not sell Sai to NYers. I cannot find any legislation that says that Sai are illegal. All I hear that are illegal are nunchuku. Can someone point me in the right direction. I have a pair of sai already... are they illegal?  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
kchenault
Black Belt


Joined: 11 Sep 2002
Posts: 1049
Location: Ottawa, KS USA
Styles: TKD, little Hap Ki Do
|
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I would look under the state section of law that deals with knives or daggers. I think they consider it a dagger of sorts. That is why it would be illegal. That would be where I would start. _________________ Ken Chenault
Low Blue belt - ITF MDK TKD
High Blue belt - WTF MDK TKD
TKD - It does a body good! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
ncole_91
Pre-Black Belt

Joined: 30 Sep 2004
Posts: 963
Location: Canada
Styles: Shotokan
|
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| You could always call somebody, like the police station... |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Shorinryu Sensei
Black Belt


Joined: 13 Jun 2002
Posts: 2045
Location: Kalispell, Montana
Styles: Shorinryu Matsumura Kenpo (Seito/Orthodox) Karate and Kobudo
|
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:52 am Post subject: |
|
|
| ncole_91 wrote: |
| You could always call somebody, like the police station... |
...or walk down the street flipping them and wait for the police to find you.
Since the sai aren't "bladed" or sharp like a knife/sword/dagger are, I don't see any reason that they would be classified the same...but then again, NY'ers think a bit differently than I do....THANK GOD!  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
scottnshelly
KF VIP

Joined: 10 Sep 2004
Posts: 715
Location: Ardmore, Oklahoma
Styles: My Style
|
Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I've never been above the Mason-Dixon Line inside the states, however, here in Oklahoma the law is, you can carry a weapon (not a gun) to or from a competition and/or training. You can not carry a weapon with intend to harm someone or for self-defense.
in other words, if you get stopped and you have an escrima in your car, just say you are on your way to practice, then so you're not lying, go somewhere and practice hitting with an escrima! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Trappersan
White Belt

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 6
Styles: Tang Soo Do, Tae Kwan Do, Kendo, Jiu-Jitsu
|
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I may be mistaken but, I am pretty sure that you can buy, own, and sell them and even carry them to and from training or competition but not down the street. Good Luck with your hunt. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Zhong Gau
Orange Belt

Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Posts: 201
Location: Taos, NM
Styles: Fu Long Siu Choy Li Fut, Hung Gar, Ba Gua, Tai Chi, Tui Na.
|
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:44 am Post subject: |
|
|
NY typically would call a pencil a weapon in the hands of a martial artist.
Sai are, as someone else pointed out, considered a type of knife/dagger and as such are limited to a three inch blade to be legal. the cross guard thing is a defining point of distinction between a utility tool and a weapon. In Florida several wah lummers who worked as surveyors were charged with weapons possession when seen with things called 'choppers' hanging from thier belts. these things are essentially swords without crossguards. the surveyors were using them as machettes. the court dismissed them as the tools did not have crossguards and as such were not intended for lethal combat. _________________ Ah! Mantis Grasshopper, i think you would do very nicely on a bowl of rice! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
strangepair03
Blue Belt

Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Posts: 262
Location: New Jersey
Styles: IsshinRyu,White Crane Kempo,ShorinRyu ShorinKan
|
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Everything in NY is illegal!!!!! Who would ever think it was good to live across the river in Jersey!!  _________________ "You should not love to fight, but not, even for a moment, forget to prepare for fighting."
- (Miyamoto Musashi, Go rin no Sho , The Book of Five Rings). |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
aefibird
Black Belt


Joined: 26 Oct 2003
Posts: 4401
Location: UK
Styles: Several
|
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Sai Illegal OR legal |
|
|
| Shamrockmc2 wrote: |
| I have been finding sites that will not sell Sai to NYers. |
Try emailing or phoning the sites that won't sell Sai and ask them why not - If they won't sell them to NYers then they must believe they have a good reason for it - no store/shop would want to exclude potential paying customers if they can help it. _________________ "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My Cologne
Sheffield Steelers! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
senna_trem
Green Belt


Joined: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 458
Location: British Columbia
Styles: Kyokushin
|
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Well, since there is a spiritual aspect in Martial Arts you could say that taking them away from you would be religous persecution and then sue them for millions! Mwahahaha! _________________ "I think therefore I am" Rene Descartes |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|