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which one do you think would fare best in a NHB fight?
shotokan karate
26%
 26%  [ 5 ]
kyokushin karate
63%
 63%  [ 12 ]
american kenpo
10%
 10%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 19

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aznkarateboi
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could be wrong
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delta1
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Styles: It's ALL Kenpo! Bring it back to base!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not vote, as I don't see the point.

aznkarateboi wrote:
Based on what I've heard, Kenpo usually doesn't allow full contact or kicks below the waste..., I could be wrong


Yup. You are wrong on both counts. AK doesn't do a lot of high kicks, most are to the base. And we do 'full' contact. In fact, in my school, you won't get your black without it.
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aznkarateboi
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondering, do any styles (or kenpo) do full contact and bare knuckle with face punches?
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delta1
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's more an individual thing than a style thing. I used to work out with a group that spared with no pads or protection and in street clothes, and we did contact. But it was not the mythical "full contact." We used less force to the head than the body, and certainly pulled the potentially crippling or harmful shots. There may be some out there that train hard bare knucle strikes to the head and face, but I've never met any. Sounds pretty gruesome to me.
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Bl4cKtH0rN
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

karate win!
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aznkarateboi
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

er, their all karate
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sano
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bare knuckle fights gruesome it's fun, i'll tell the truth it's not good to the body i have two oversized knuckles on my hand, but thats not bad whats bad is when your outside people stare at your hand and i hate that i mean their not that big their not normal size but their not huge.
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sano
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one more thing if shidokan was up there it will win with it's eyes close .
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Hohan-1
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Styles: Matsumura Seito Shuri Te

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:20 pm    Post subject: Memories... Reply with quote

It's funny to read that you guys think that American Kenpo would fair none to good in a NHB match compared to Shotokan (never been even one participant in Pride or UFC) or Kyokushin (Rutten is strctly Muay Thai now). The fact is that an American Kenpo guy, I forget his name, was successful in knocking out that huge American Sumo Emmanuel Yarborough, with multiple open hand strikes to the face and cabeza. He broke his hands to heck but he did win at least one match and showed the efficacy of "slap fu". Now if they closed their fists, then those slap happy karate-ka will at least have the hands portion down of original Shuri Te.

Kyokushin is a sport as is Shotokan. I would pick Kyokushinkai over Shotokan 90% of the time. It's like Shotokna on 'rhoids.
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aznkarateboi
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kenpo is good, but I would still choose Kyokushin. I may be wrong, but I'm sure that if more people actually knew about kyokushin karate, there would be more in the NHB world. Kyokushin, like Muay Thai, has an intense training method and emphasizes low, powerful kicks. Being a practitioner, I would say that it also has a good share of stand-up grappling techniques/throws. Kyokushin, like Shotokan, also emphasizes power, solid punches, but with speed as well.
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