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patusai
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:20 am    Post subject: Shudokan Kata Reply with quote

Regarding Shudokan kata, I would think that the kata Soshin is not the same as Sochin of Shotokan and others. Is there a video available somewhere in some form of the kata Soshin or is this one of the "guarded" kata? Just curious. Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is a very different kata.

sochin (so-CHIN) is a very nifty shotokan kata, with some unique stances (i.e. sochin-dachi)

soshin (so-SHEEN) is the first in a line of shudokan katas which are:
-soshin
-kakoshin
-choshin

they are not guarded katas (a.k.a. the kyoku katas) and can be performed anywhere and taught to anyone (though they are generally reserved for dan ranks). They are some of my favorite katas, though it's been a while since i practiced them.

if you were really interested i could probably find a video of it, or tape myself doing it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

daizyblackbelt wrote:


if you were really interested i could probably find a video of it, or tape myself doing it.


Come on now! I think it's pretty safe to say that most of the people on the forum here are Kata geeks. I know I am. I love to see new and different kata! If you can get a video of some of them, that would be great!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried putting it in google? I have found every kata that I looked for this way.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be happy to pay for a video or dvd of the forms. I'm a kata geek myself.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a form resource page: http://www.paperwindow.com/tkd/

The Shamelessly Unofficial TKD resource.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

these kata are unique to shudokan karate and are not done by any other style. as shudokan is a relatively small style (read: smaller than shotokan, shitoo ryy, goju ryu, etc...), they are not widely known.

as far as i know there are no dvds of them, or videos on the internet, though i have not done an exhaustive search.

i'll try and post some videos within the next week!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daizyblackbelt wrote:
it is a very different kata.

sochin (so-CHIN) is a very nifty shotokan kata, with some unique stances (i.e. sochin-dachi)

soshin (so-SHEEN) is the first in a line of shudokan katas which are:
-soshin
-kakoshin
-choshin

they are not guarded katas (a.k.a. the kyoku katas) and can be performed anywhere and taught to anyone (though they are generally reserved for dan ranks). They are some of my favorite katas, though it's been a while since i practiced them.

if you were really interested i could probably find a video of it, or tape myself doing it.


I am insterested. Let me know. thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

while we're on this subject didn't Mack in WA state add 5 more Pinan to the Shudokan syllabus? I'm friends with a female that got her shodan in Oregon that told me she quit shortly after this happened and was wondering how true it is.
I'm a kata nerd myself, but I also do Shito Ryu...any shito ryu yudansha is a kata nerd to some degree.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

daizyblackbelt wrote:
soshin (so-SHEEN) is the first in a line of shudokan katas which are:
-soshin
-kakoshin
-choshin
.


What would the translations be for each? Thanks
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