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tallgeese
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ninjanurse
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Again great detail. I have used the first option on occasion-the second is new!
THanks!
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TJ-Jitsu
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Location: PA
Styles: Gracie Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai
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I used to do both of those, and still in fact teach both. My personal strategy is slightly different though. Follow the logic....
In order to mount, one needs to have control of both their opponents hips (near and far side).
As it stands I almost always attack with knee in the belly prior to going to full mount. This claims the near side hip and leaves roughly 3 options for the person on bottom:
1: They turn towards you to attempt to hip escape, giving the mounted position in the process (along with any other array of arm/choke attacks)
2: They turn away, protecting the far hip and preventing mount at the expense of giving armbar, choke, and rear mount options
3: They do nothing, leaving shooters choice. |
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LLLEARNER
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Location: Central Maine
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Is that you tallgeese?
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tallgeese
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Joined: 04 May 2008
Posts: 6879
Location: McHenry County, IL
Styles: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Gokei Ryu Kempo Jutsu, MMA, Shootfighting, boxing, kickboxing, JKD, Pekiti Tersia Kali
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I used to do both of those, and still in fact teach both. My personal strategy is slightly different though. Follow the logic....
In order to mount, one needs to have control of both their opponents hips (near and far side).
As it stands I almost always attack with knee in the belly prior to going to full mount. This claims the near side hip and leaves roughly 3 options for the person on bottom:
1: They turn towards you to attempt to hip escape, giving the mounted position in the process (along with any other array of arm/choke attacks)
2: They turn away, protecting the far hip and preventing mount at the expense of giving armbar, choke, and rear mount options
3: They do nothing, leaving shooters choice. |
I can see that. I also work out of knee in belly sometimes, but find it less stable than either the side or mount, hence if I can make the immediate transition I do so.
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tallgeese
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