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Kyle-san
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Joined: 09 Sep 2002
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Location: Brandon, Manitoba
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| Bon wrote: |
I wouldn't think joint locks would be something good to learn for self defense quickly, they take a lot of practice to be able to perform on a resisting opponent.
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You'd be surprised at how quickly and naturally a joint lock will fall on after a little bit of practice, it's especially easy if the opponent has no experience in this area.
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ckdstudent
Green Belt
Joined: 09 May 2002
Posts: 491
Location: Surrey, England
Styles: Choi Kwang Do
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Claw finger thrust straight to the face. I agree with the locks comment, unless you're good at them and have a fair amount of practice then an opponent can make life difficult for you. Easiest way to put them on is give them a good strike first, its amazing how that'll loosen people up for locks.
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Karateka_latino
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2001
Posts: 1295
Location: Panama city, Panama
Styles: Goju-Ryu & Shotokan Karate do; Shaolin Kung Fu. Previous training in Muay Thai, J.K.D., Tai Chi & Taekwondo(wtf)
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| Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 12:22 am Post subject: |
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I'm totally agree with Bon... wristlocks aren't easy to do right it takes years to make them work against a resisting oponent.
Hit the vital points or soft part of the body is better.. |
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KU
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Joined: 26 Sep 2002
Posts: 61
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Styles: Karate, Aikido, Kendo.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| If your looking for fast effective self defense knockouts simple is always best, a palm heal strike to the forehead along with all the strength, adrenaline and vocal spirit you can muster is a sure fire way to knockout ever the biggest aggressor. |
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monkeygirl
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Joined: 22 Feb 2002
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Location: Middle-of-Nowhere, Pennsylvania
Styles: Tae Kwon Do
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| Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Wristlocks, if done correctly, can be very effective. However, I agree with SubmissionFighter and Bon...they can be very difficult to master to the point of effectiveness.
Elbow and palm strikes are very easy and effective. Pressure points can be done with very little effort or strength, but they, too are difficult to learn. The best training you can get for pressure points is a CDT (Compliance-Direction-Takedown) course, but I hear it can be very expensive. I skimmed their website but couldn't find any pricing information. They offer a training video set for $39.95 + S&H. However, if you're interested in an actual course, you might be better off calling one of the phone numbers listed on the site.
http://www.cdt-training.com
CDT specializes in being "non-deadly force training", so you can disable an opponent, and leave nearly no marks on your agressors' body. This is especially important with today's growing concerns of being sued for defending yourself.
Hope that helps!
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Bretty101
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Joined: 14 Feb 2002
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| Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 4:21 am Post subject: |
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If it's simple moves you want, it doesn't get more simple or effective then Groin, Eyes or Throat. (who was it who said that? GET)
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KickChick
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Joined: 02 Aug 2001
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| Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2002 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Simple moves? |
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Bretty, those areas are all good "targets" .... but what do you suggest as a "simple move" using an upper body attack?
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| I wanted to learn just one or two upper body moves to finish off an opponent fast and get out, what would you recommend? ...nothing special. ... I've have cerebral palsy so not much flexibility at all in the lower body. |
With all this in mind .... what you want is a simple strike done with the hands, is what I'm thinking. Most martial arts are taught to practice boxing style knuckle punches, such as a jab, cross, and hook. Striking with the edge of the hand using a closed fist, called a hammer-fist, is a stronger and more stable striking surface ....the problem is that the harder you hit on the street, the more likely you will break your unprotected hand using a knuckle punch.
The best target for hand strikes is on the jaw line close to your attacker's ear. Travel the same angle as a hook punch, which is the main knockout punch in boxing. This target area on your attacker's jaw is sometimes known in boxing as the "sweet spot", because striking it can result in an instant knockout. A well placed, and often unseen, strike to this area can send a shock wave into your attacker's brain stem, which shuts their brain down temporarily. Other targets for the hammer fist strike are the temple, neck, and collarbones.
The upward knee to the body (if you're capable of exucuting that particular lower body movement), and elbow strikes to the head are also quite effective simple attacks. The elbow is one of the strongest bones in the body, and can generate a tremendous amount of power when thrown correctly. The upward knee and the elbow strike go well together, because the knee bends your opponent over slightly, exposing their head to the elbow strike. Both these strikes are done in close range, when you are close to your attacker grab on to them, in order to pull them into the strike. |
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Bretty101
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I think for Self defence to be most effective it MUST be simple and effective. When someone attacks you the adrenaline you'll feel will be nothing like you have ever felt before, people respond to adrenaline in very odd and different ways (fight, flight or freeze). Thats why I keep it simple Eyes and Groin if an attacker can defend both they haven't got hold of you and you can leg it.
If you wanna make it a little more complicated my arsenal (in order of preference)
Headbut- Grab attackers arms/back of head and drive top of my head into their nose. 
Groin kick- Big football style kick into attackers joy department  (also strike/grab with hands)
Elbow- Across or upwards into face.
Stomp kick- to knee (awesome)
Knee- possibey to thigh, groin or head
Feeling lucky- Punch to solar plexus or Chin
Taekwondo- Out the window (with all other 'formal' training)
Real street fighting isn't nice.
Hows that? Better?
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monkeygirl
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Location: Middle-of-Nowhere, Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Don't forget biting 
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Kensai
Black Belt
Joined: 05 Jul 2002
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Location: Britain
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| Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Bretty
"Taekwondo- Out the window (with all other 'formal' training)"
What do you mean by this?
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on the post.
