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dreamer38f
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2001 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How common is it for people to skip ranks? I do not mean skipping the knowledge required but ie...going from white belt to yellow with green stripe or from yellow/green stripe to green with blue stripe
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2001 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is very uncommon in the systems that i have been involved with, unless the student has had some sort of prior knowledge. most likely they were black belts in another system or style.



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2001 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rush,
I agree.
I have never seen anyone skip rank, unless they ere already a Black Belt in another style.
Even then it was left up to the individual.

Still love ya.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2001 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the point of starting a new MA if u'r just gonna skip ranks... See, that's why i don't like the belt system...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2001 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

angus....the skipping just causes you to learn twice the knowledge before the next test. It is a blessing and a curse, because now I must learn 2 forms and 10 one steps and perfect them all before the next testing, if I want to live up to this so called honor that the Grand Master bestowed upon me.

tae and rushman: no i am not a black belt in any other system or style. My prior experience is in fencing and archery.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2001 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also, just because your of highter rank you are still expected to learn everything from the beginning.............basically your still a white belt with a lot of knowledge.......its not about the belt its about the knowledge........
.....futhermore, for identification purposes of knowledge you should hold the black belt.

of course thats my humble opinion.

.....each school is different and some do make you a white belt regardless of previous training.



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2001 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't accept it if someone said that i could just do this and skip ranks. Who needs a belt anyway? Have i told my story about the brown belt? No? Well, i'm quite tipsy at the moment so i think i will (i've been partying - hehehehe)...

This guy at HapkIdo was getting real fresh with me in sparring cos he knew i'd done some nasty stuff before so he wanted to spar hard - i gave him HARD!! I kicked the guy around the room and i was only a white belt! Hahahaha, that'l teach 'em!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2001 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sometimes when a person comes from a different school or association that does the same martial art, they are started at white-belt and pretty much have to prove themselves before attaining the equivalent rank of their old school. They can't just take anyone's word for it, or even certificates anymore. Too many McDojo's out there.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2001 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

too true....i agree. you must always back up your rank.



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2001 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many levels of belts does everyone have to go through to get to black?
At my dojang they use the following:
White
Yellow
Orange, Orange Senior
Green, Green Senior
Blue, Blue Senior
Purple, Purple Senior
Brown, Brown Senior
Red, Red Senior
Red Black
Black.

While I enjoyed testing every few months it got a bit expensive. 16 belts through to black took me about 4 years to obtain 1st dan.
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