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Tobias_Reece
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We run with the WUKO rules, just like every other school should do if they want to compete.

Oh, but that doesn't mean that I actually like the WUKO rules........
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shotochem
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In our dojo it is the higher ranking persons responsibility to show control and not injure them. You are supposed to be learning and helping each other improve. Pummeling the weaker is not what it is all about. We regularly spar with all ranks, I enjoy the challenge of a better opponent as well as the "unpredictable" white belt
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that is more so up to the teacher today. You would be nuts not to wear pads IMO. LOL.....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2002 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heh i train in like 2 different shotokan dojos and one goju dojo.

In traditional jka dojos, and (the jka hq for that matter) no pads are ever worn. all techniques are thrown with full speed and full intent and they are just deadened on impact (except for sweeps).

At my kumite coaches dojo, we wear mouthguards and 12 or 16 oz gloves when we fight.

goju dojo we just wear what we wear in tournaments (cloth fistguards and mouth guard)

as for the comment about it being fair fighting a higher ranking person.

rank means diddly squat in kumite.


you dont have to be a nidan to be fast enough to KO people. you just need to be able to commit your hands and feet to hitting someone.

Alot of people when they fight high ranking or excelent fighters (i still do it every now and then when i fight my kumite coach) are very nervous about getting hit, if every time before you throw a technique you think about getting hit you cant really commit full speed to the technique and you will most likely get hit =p

If you ever want to be a kumite competitor youll have to look forward to fighting people who are alot better then you, and when you fight them constantly tell yourself you can hit them, and you most likely will hit them =p
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Protective gear is optional at my dojo and I choose not the wear it. I do this for a quite simple reason, I believe it is just as immportant to learn how to take a hit , and how it feels to be hit as it is to learn how to hit
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2002 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my personal opinion (after a skull fracture in Ippon Kumite (dont ask!)), I think that Headgear, cup, and mouthguard should be mandatory.
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G95champ
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2002 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leaf I do agree with what you say but I do wear pads. More so for the other persons protection than my own. Although I let it slide a lot I do tell everyone to bring a mouthpiece.
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LeaF
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes well a mouthpiece is an exception to my little rule
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2002 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right again, Leaf.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeaF wrote:
Protective gear is optional at my dojo and I choose not the wear it. I do this for a quite simple reason, I believe it is just as immportant to learn how to take a hit , and how it feels to be hit as it is to learn how to hit

You are right about the learning aspect I guess you should consider wearing a cup, because you shouldn't commit yourself into learning to cope with a pain "there". It's too dangerous ... as for girls, guess we've got other things to protect These two should be mandatory in kumite, when contact is intended.
Just a thought
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