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bushido_man96
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:21 am Post subject: |
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In reference to the stances used in sparring, at the school I attend now, the instructor has always passed of the back stance, or L-stance, as the sparring stance, but I have never used it as my sparring stance. I prefer a more 50/50 weight distribution with my stance, and it isn't quite as frontal as a Boxer's is, but it is more of a medium between the front on, and full side on stance.
I've tried the side on stance before, but it doesn't really suit my style, as I like to get in and punch in combination, and this is easier to do with more of a frontal stance. I also don't counter kick a whole lot, and tend to be more of a blocker.
I do know that Bill Wallace made the side on stance work for him very well, and it can be done. I think it depends alot on what tools and weapons you plan to use, and your strategy in deploying them. _________________ www.haysgym.com
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sensei8
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Funny thing about the back/L stance is that, for the most part, I've primarily seen said stance used only in one venue time after time...KATA!!
In Kumite, I've rarely seen this said stance. Front and side stance seem to be the stance of choice. We don't see the cat or diagonal side or hour glass or the many other unseen stances used in Kumite.
Now, the weight distribution to the rear in the back/L stance can limit mobility. However, imho, lack of experience ISN'T the true reason of it's limited use in Kumite. The true reason is more than likely a choice of "comfortability" preference.
Nonetheless, the back/L stance is an effective stance when it's used in its proper context. Obvious to me, Kumite isn't the proper context for most practitioners.
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DWx
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I think the stance very much depends on the style and type of sparring. In the style of TKD I do you'll almost never see a proper front stance, maybe a side stance but it is nearly always an L stance. Ok its not a true L-stance as the weight isn't necessarily centred on the back leg all the time but insofar as the positions of the feet it is. If you look at any footage, everyone's in an L-stance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anvxN8zoC18
Funny you should say that it limits mobility sensei8 as probably one of the reasons we use it is because of the high mobility in both shifting/dodging and ease of throwing a kick compared to other stances. _________________ "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius |
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bushido_man96
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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The reason my instructor has pushed the back stance, in my opinion, is to allow for easier front leg kicking. He's a big believer in the front leg side kick to keep the opponent back. I'm not sure if this is the consensus of the GM in our organization, but the "fighting stance" is basically a back stance, but labeled so because the hands are up in guarding block position. _________________ www.haysgym.com
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sensei8
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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DWx wrote: |
I think the stance very much depends on the style and type of sparring. In the style of TKD I do you'll almost never see a proper front stance, maybe a side stance but it is nearly always an L stance. Ok its not a true L-stance as the weight isn't necessarily centred on the back leg all the time but insofar as the positions of the feet it is. If you look at any footage, everyone's in an L-stance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anvxN8zoC18
Funny you should say that it limits mobility sensei8 as probably one of the reasons we use it is because of the high mobility in both shifting/dodging and ease of throwing a kick compared to other stances. |
No, I said that IT CAN limit mobility. Lack of experience in using this particular stance is how IT CAN limit mobility. The more one uses it, the easier the mobility is.
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DWx
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:55 am Post subject: |
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True and I'd agree experience really comes into it. But lack of experience in any stance limits mobility and I'd actually rank the L-stance as being easier to be mobile in compared to a front stance. _________________ "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius |
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sensei8
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:50 am Post subject: |
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DWx wrote: |
True and I'd agree experience really comes into it. But lack of experience in any stance limits mobility and I'd actually rank the L-stance as being easier to be mobile in compared to a front stance. |
That's cool, but, what's easy for some, is difficult for others no matter the rank.
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bushido_man96
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barrypardue
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Great article!!! THANKS!!!! _________________ Martial Arts is not just a hobby, Its a way of life!!! |
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