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Joined: 11 Jun 2002
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Location: Karachi, Pakistan
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Holy *...I ain't practicing kata in the park anymore...don't know when some cop might walk by... 
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Taikudo-ka
Green Belt
Joined: 20 Mar 2002
Posts: 450
Location: Australia
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Hehe just what I was about to say.
Anyway,
I found a high (but still correct) front stance great for keeping balanced standing on a ricketty moving bus or train. Particularly when it jerks to a stop or starts up, and everyone else is thrown around and wildly grabbing at overhead hand rails. |
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Taikudo-ka
Green Belt
Joined: 20 Mar 2002
Posts: 450
Location: Australia
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In an actual fight, "stances" are a transitory thing, selected for their relation to the desired technique and required stability or positioning according to the opponent.
Kata is a good example of this. Even a basic kata generally features lots of transitions from basic upright position to back and front stance, and the footwork and positioning that goes with them.
I'm pretty sure that's so you can learn these same principles for "real" fighting. |
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Blue Belt
Joined: 11 Jun 2002
Posts: 299
Location: Karachi, Pakistan
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If you want to see powerful stances in action, try some Drunken kata, preferrably Choy Li Fut. Watching and performing these kata show you just how important and powerful stances are to a fight.
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Athorn4941
Orange Belt
Joined: 16 Apr 2002
Posts: 101
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I heard from a freind who heard from this one guy who dont know squat. KNOW YOUR LAWS!!!
On the post anyways anything can be considered a stance. like that one guy posted thats just a non agressive stance to not provoke the fighter then if he strikes you do whatever motion to defend attack etc...
i think personally the best way to learn is to practice in a variety of stances to get an idea of which stance is best. and remember to practice in stances that you are uncomfortable in. 9 times out of 10(exageration) thats going to be the stance thats the best to win or you have gotten yourself into.
[ This Message was edited by: artoftheninja on 2002-07-09 12:12 ] |
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larryjf
Yellow Belt
Joined: 07 Jul 2002
Posts: 65
Location: boothwyn, pa
Styles: Shotokan, Yoshin Ryu Jujitsu
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if i use a stance it would be a modified horse stance.
Higher than a normal horse stance, and facing about 45 degrees from the opponent.
Also, try to kick with the front and not the back leg - when you move into position to kick with the back leg, you expose your groin.
But, it is important not to trap yourself into fighting by "rules". And in every situation to be very loose and fluid, allowing yourself to match whatever situation you are in.
The most important thing is to be observant of your opponent, and what he is going to do before he does it. Also, to control the pace and rythm of the fight - this will throw the opponent off and keep him off balance. |
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Bon
Black Belt
Joined: 10 Aug 2001
Posts: 1047
Location: Australia
Styles: BJJ, Kickboxing
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You guys are worried about a lawsuit ?
Pfft! I find that really irritating.
On the street I am not going to wait for someone to hit me or dance around in some defensive stance, if someone wants to hurt me, I'll do my best to destroy them as quickly as possible. I'm assuming that the attacker has the potential to do some harm, otherwise I'd laugh and walk away.
Better to face the jury than be carried out in a coffin.
If you're not going to fight back at all and adopt some defensive stance with open hands up around your head, why even train in MA ? If I'm gonna block, I'll block with elbows, not open hands. Seems like a waste of time to me. If I started a fight with someone on the street and they went into the defensive, I'd place a kick right through them & they'd be wishing they had tried to hurt me while they had the chance.
If you're really that concerned about facing a lawsuit and don't want to slug it out with an opponent, I'd say take up grappling so you can choke your opponent out without any real harm.
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Northren Ogre
Purple Belt
Joined: 02 Jun 2002
Posts: 520
Location: Peace River, Alberta
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Nuff said Bon! 
Gound 'em and Pound 'em!
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Blue Belt
Joined: 11 Jun 2002
Posts: 299
Location: Karachi, Pakistan
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That's why sensei Ueshiba decided 'Jujutsu just ain't right'.
Ladies and gentlemen, enter Aikido
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Don Gwinn
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Joined: 01 Jul 2002
Posts: 231
Location: Virden, IL
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Lord forgive me for the heresy which I am about to utter, but. . . . has it occurred to you that Ueshiba might have been . . . . well . . . . wrong?
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on the post.
