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ps1
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah- started the first class today. The kodokan itself is a fairly unimpressive building that's easy to miss, however there is something very cool about have multiple stories of gym space . I get to train on the 7th floor gym, which shares space part time with black belt randori and a children's class. The instructors are pretty cool, and I like the guys I am training with. I kind of got stuck with the role of translator, which I would sometimes forget to do until I noticed the worried expression on the other foreigner who was just starting out with me- but other than that I got a rundown of gym etiquette, judo history, and some basics on break falling. I have a feeling that the next week or so will be on ukemi, as I really need to work on it. However, I'm going to be going every day except sunday, so I am hoping that I will be able to get it down soon!


That's so cool. Have I mentioned I'm jealous? Cause' I am.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with ps1. That is so awesome!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah- still loving it, although I had to miss a few days because of something called school. : ( I really am a slow learner. It takes me about 2X as long to learn something as the other students, but I don't mind that too much as long as I can get it in the end. The one thing that is bothering me though, is o-goshi : (http://www.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/ogoshi.htm) I started it tonight and I absolutely couldn't get it. The instructor recommended (or rather, told me to do) squats but does it really take that much lower body streangth? I've seen plenty of tiny women and old guys do it...so why can't I? Anyhow, if anyone else has tips, let me know...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually you don't need to use a lot of strength at all. It's all your hips that do the work and those are powerful. You really need to get your hips in right.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get your hips under, and then straighten you legs forcefully as you throw. That should help.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah I hope so! The guy seemed to really emphasize it where you used your knees and quads. When I couldn't lift the other guy in a dead weight squat (or he me for that matter), he had us do 40 squats, then try a dead lift squat again...which of course I was spent by that point and could do even less than before. He seemed really puzzled, then decided that maybe we should do3 more sets of 20 squats. I told him," Um, perhaps can we do something else? Like work on foot sweeps?'. Which caused him to pause and then say, 'Well, why not?". However by the next day my quads were totally shot- today I can barely walk or get up/ sit down, and it doesn't look like I will be able to train again for a bit. Sorry for the rant- just a bit frustrated and needing another dose of Advil, that's all. It isn't discouraging in that I want to give up, but I just really really want to beat this thing and get it down.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best thing to do when your sore like that is to work it out. Not hard, but avoiding the use of them will make the soreness last longer.

As for the hip throw (O goshi), you should enter at about a 45 degree angle on your opponent, keeping your knees bent and turn 180 degrees before lifting.

Assuming you're using your right arm around the body here's some basic positioning advice:
If the uki is facing 12 o'clock then you should end up facing about 10 o'clock (be sure your feet are on the same angle) with your butt centered on the far thigh of your opponent. Your hips should be lower than his.
As with any throws, you should be moving under and through the center of gravity.
To execute the throw straighten your legs forcefully and use your arms to guide your opponent to the ground.

I'm sure you have heard all of this, maybe this explination will help though.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your partner was smaller than you (height) it may be harder. O goshi is easier to do on taller people because of the center of gravity.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

he was a bit smaller- either way I will start up again tomorrow! Right after my leg problem I got tonsillitis so I've been really sick and on antibiotics, however it has mostly cleared up. I'll try your suggestions tomorrow
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NightOwl wrote:
he was a bit smaller- either way I will start up again tomorrow! Right after my leg problem I got tonsillitis so I've been really sick and on antibiotics, however it has mostly cleared up. I'll try your suggestions tomorrow


Glad to hear you're feeling better.
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