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DWx
Black Belt
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Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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The IOC admits MMA/UFC/ETC into the Olympics, but for the fear of the blood, they don't televise any of the events, or very, very, very little and watered down. I mean, the Olympics is THEIR backyard!!
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The Olympic broadcasting service films and broadcasts everything. In the UK we generally have access to all sports and all matches. It's up to individual countries and networks to choose what they want to show and then put their own overlays and commentary on top. Do you think the blood and other injuries be something the American network would show? (can't remember which one of yours has the rights) _________________ "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
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Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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DWx wrote: |
sensei8 wrote: |
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The IOC admits MMA/UFC/ETC into the Olympics, but for the fear of the blood, they don't televise any of the events, or very, very, very little and watered down. I mean, the Olympics is THEIR backyard!!
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The Olympic broadcasting service films and broadcasts everything. In the UK we generally have access to all sports and all matches. It's up to individual countries and networks to choose what they want to show and then put their own overlays and commentary on top. Do you think the blood and other injuries be something the American network would show? (can't remember which one of yours has the rights) |
Yes I do think that the USA network would show it, and at prime-time!! TKD was barely shown in the USA at the summer games. Doesn't the IOC have any say as to what is to be shown and how often? Or, the more popular the sport, the more it gets played?
If the Olympics were to include MMA/UFC type events, I wouldn't watch it because it's shown on the USA networks quite a lot.
**Real quick>When I say USA network, I'm speaking about ANY network found on any guide in America. NOT the network named USA Network.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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DWx
Black Belt
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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Location: UK
Styles: Tae Kwon Do & Yang family Tai Chi
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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sensei8 wrote: |
Yes I do think that the USA network would show it, and at prime-time!! TKD was barely shown in the USA at the summer games. Doesn't the IOC have any say as to what is to be shown and how often? Or, the more popular the sport, the more it gets played?
If the Olympics were to include MMA/UFC type events, I wouldn't watch it because it's shown on the USA networks quite a lot.
**Real quick>When I say USA network, I'm speaking about ANY network found on any guide in America. NOT the network named USA Network.
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It's up to the individual network or country to cherry pick from the footage filmed by the Olympic Broadcasting Service as to what they want to show. OBS film the lot and has nothing to do with the IOC . I'd imagine a lot of it's down to what the networks think will pick up views and that's dictated by what's popular their country. For example TKD isn't as popular as athletics so if they're on at the same time and NBC has to pick one its most likely going to be athletics they show on their main channel.
Not to derail the topic, but I always think that those networks who have commercial breaks have a hell of a scheduling nightmare making sure the ads are timed exactly right so as not to miss any of the action. From what I remember of 2012 I think a lot of people missed whole chunks of the opening and closing ceremonies because networks have to get the commercial breaks in somewhere. _________________ "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius |
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DWx
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Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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NBC and its affliates has the rights to the Olympics as far as I know right now. I think they would show it. I believe NBC last ran the StrikeForce fights. |
That's cool. At least you get to watch that. Aside from Olympic Judo and TKD and a bit of boxing, most combat sports for us are on the paid networks like Sky and Eurosports. _________________ "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius |
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bushido_man96
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Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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DWx wrote: |
bushido_man96 wrote: |
NBC and its affliates has the rights to the Olympics as far as I know right now. I think they would show it. I believe NBC last ran the StrikeForce fights. |
That's cool. At least you get to watch that. Aside from Olympic Judo and TKD and a bit of boxing, most combat sports for us are on the paid networks like Sky and Eurosports. |
I remember getting to see some of the Judo last time, but didn't get to see the TKD. I'm not sure if it was on TV or not. But, NBC did a bunch of streaming stuff on the internet, too. _________________ www.haysgym.com
http://www.sunyis.com/
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Archimoto
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the changes seem minor, but if it starts to look too much like UFC I think it'd be a pity. Some people just prefer taekwondo, despite the more restrictive ruleset. if people want to do MMA they should do MMA, and taekwondo should remain. |
I totally agree. Like other sports, if they want to increase viewership, perhaps look at the structure of point scoring and perhaps the rounds. But stay true to the sport. |
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bushido_man96
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Archimoto wrote: |
guird wrote: |
the changes seem minor, but if it starts to look too much like UFC I think it'd be a pity. Some people just prefer taekwondo, despite the more restrictive ruleset. if people want to do MMA they should do MMA, and taekwondo should remain. |
I totally agree. Like other sports, if they want to increase viewership, perhaps look at the structure of point scoring and perhaps the rounds. But stay true to the sport. |
I think just getting rid of the padding would make the event more exciting, and much less of a point game. It would also change the strategies just a bit, but not so much that it wouldn't be WTF TKD anymore. More contact related strategy would ensue, making it much more fun to watch, I think. _________________ www.haysgym.com
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Archimoto
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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bushido_man96 wrote: |
Archimoto wrote: |
guird wrote: |
the changes seem minor, but if it starts to look too much like UFC I think it'd be a pity. Some people just prefer taekwondo, despite the more restrictive ruleset. if people want to do MMA they should do MMA, and taekwondo should remain. |
I totally agree. Like other sports, if they want to increase viewership, perhaps look at the structure of point scoring and perhaps the rounds. But stay true to the sport. |
I think just getting rid of the padding would make the event more exciting, and much less of a point game. It would also change the strategies just a bit, but not so much that it wouldn't be WTF TKD anymore. More contact related strategy would ensue, making it much more fun to watch, I think. |
I like that idea too!!! _________________ To quote the great Bob Marley: "LOVE IS MY RELIGION" |
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DWx
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:37 am Post subject: |
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bushido_man96 wrote: |
Archimoto wrote: |
guird wrote: |
the changes seem minor, but if it starts to look too much like UFC I think it'd be a pity. Some people just prefer taekwondo, despite the more restrictive ruleset. if people want to do MMA they should do MMA, and taekwondo should remain. |
I totally agree. Like other sports, if they want to increase viewership, perhaps look at the structure of point scoring and perhaps the rounds. But stay true to the sport. |
I think just getting rid of the padding would make the event more exciting, and much less of a point game. It would also change the strategies just a bit, but not so much that it wouldn't be WTF TKD anymore. More contact related strategy would ensue, making it much more fun to watch, I think. |
It certainly would change things up a bit I think. But I don't think more contact will automatically make it more fun to watch. Interestingly enough, over the past few years there have been some rule changes in ITF sparring to make it more "technical" and exciting to watch. Each competitor must now throw a compulsory technique or be deducted 2 points each round. The compulsory is something with at least a 360 aerial spin or a 180 switch back kick. Punches are also limited to no more than 2 in succession.
Whether it's more watchable is personal choice but we are starting to see more and more matches like this: http://youtu.be/pINXpo2k0dg _________________ "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius |
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