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Daisho
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Styles: Miyama Ryu (Jujutsu, Kenjutsu, Aikido, Judo, and Jojutsu)
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 Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: te sabaki low front kick (kenjutsu) |
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ok, so 7 years of studying M-R, and tonight I learned my first "kick", or more appropriately foot-strike.
All our foot work through all styles we train remains Kenjutsu te sabaki. So if I want to close large distance, i slide my front foot toward my enemy, while slifing my back foot to return me to a short front stance. In kenjutsu this is how we move, both feet always remain on the floor, and we slide themalong when we're moving.
Anyways, so my sensei explained the "kick" then went on to tightly wrap both his ankle and knee, as he always has us work on our new techniqies with him first for safety reasons.
so i step up to him with a backstance-sabaki-frontstance swing, which put me just within range of his bokken. I slid across him into a deep backstance to protect his overhand strike, and i launched myself into him, with my goal of making the ball of my foot hit, and roll his ankle. I noticed his immeadiate loss of balance was back in my direction (from Judo leg sweeping i expected the opposite). Forcing him to lean over toward where i ended up, putting him in easy position for a rear naked choke. Now should he not have been so heavily taped, that contact at his ankle couldve easily rolled his ankle, and possibly tore his mcl/acl.
Regardless of the style of stance this seems to be very effective way to break their mind-string thet they've prepared for the fight. Also the speed in which it can be struck, and the odd placement, increases the chances of it's effectiveness.
Actually shoud I wanted, I could easily have slid back to back with him, and did the same to his other foot while he'd be trying to get a trap off on me.
If successful, that would've left me with an enemy with some severe ligament damage in both of their knees, and they never saw it comming.
i don't know if i'm explaining this well, but has anyone else come across a technique similar to this??
also, should you slide step into the kick, and your only shot is to go at the ankle head on, you're actually at an advantage there as well, considering if they're applying any weight to that foot as you strike, you prob have a good chance of busting the ankle up pretty good.
I couldn't believe how well these simple step strikes could make a fighter so disadvantaged, and at the mercy of more destructive JJ immeadiately.
Further, it can be disguised nice with my judo foot work, as they expect the standing 1 leg sweep, and instead i just delivered a strike that may've dealt considerable damage, and could quickly be followed up with a hard throw.
so yea, again... anyone train a kick, or more correctly a walk, like this?
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Jay
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: |
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I dont really understand your technique but it sounds very interesting what part of the foot do you strike with?
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Daisho
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Styles: Miyama Ryu (Jujutsu, Kenjutsu, Aikido, Judo, and Jojutsu)
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Jay wrote: |
| I dont really understand your technique but it sounds very interesting what part of the foot do you strike with? |
sorry that was me trying to explain the tech after taking an ambien.
it's basically a strike witht he ball of the foot to the ankle, if their weight isn't on that foot hitting the ankle from an angle to cause the leg to bend in and maybe break the ankle, or if it is supporting weight to cause the foot to roll, and probably do some ligament damage.
it's basically a kenjutsu front step, but your foot actually leaves the floor a few inches. i found it very deceptive, and there's no chambering to telegraph the move.
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bushido_man96
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Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, and I research Medieval Combat
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So, is it basically like you are doing a front snap kick to the ankle of your opponent? That is what it sounds like from the reading, but I am not for sure. At any rate, it sounds like attacking footwork, kind of.
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Daisho
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| So, is it basically like you are doing a front snap kick to the ankle of your opponent? That is what it sounds like from the reading, but I am not for sure. At any rate, it sounds like attacking footwork, kind of. |
thats exactly what it is. but it's not done with any chambering really, just the typical slide step we use to move around the floor. i did a little research on it, and it's the same kinda injury you see basketball players get when they land on someones foot on the way down from a dunk, and roll there foot. as we all know, 9 times out of ten that leads to the player missing significant time due to knee ligament injury.
do any other styles use a similar strike?
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I have not seen of it, other than the typical foot sweep. However, it does sound interesting, and would be worth exploring.
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| Daisho wrote: |
| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| So, is it basically like you are doing a front snap kick to the ankle of your opponent? That is what it sounds like from the reading, but I am not for sure. At any rate, it sounds like attacking footwork, kind of. |
thats exactly what it is. but it's not done with any chambering really, just the typical slide step we use to move around the floor. i did a little research on it, and it's the same kinda injury you see basketball players get when they land on someones foot on the way down from a dunk, and roll there foot. as we all know, 9 times out of ten that leads to the player missing significant time due to knee ligament injury.
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We used it in Chuan Fa, Kenjutsu, and Shotokan. Our shotokan instructor loved it because he was a police officer. He made great use of it in his policing.
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