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bushido_man96
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 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:07 am Post subject: The Cane |
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I have read a few different articles on the cane as a martial arts weapon. From what I have seen so far, it seems to float around in the Korean style circles for the most part; either in Hapkido or Kuk Sool Won (or Kuk Sool?). I think it is even making its way into some ICHF curriculum.
Anyhow, it seems that this instrument has quite a few practical uses. Although the cane may not seem as stylish as many other weapons that float around in the world of kobudo, there is one advantage that it does have over the other traditional weapons: it IS legal to carry around.
I think that if I ever get the chance, I will take some lessons on this curved stick. With the way my knees are going on me, it could be fairly practical within several years. 
What is everyone else's opinion on this weapon?
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Mike Flanagan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: Re: The Cane |
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
What is everyone else's opinion on this weapon? |
I think its a bit on the sensible side to train with something that you can actually legally carry. I personally carry a large umbrella with me quite often. Its not much good for swinging blows but you wouldn't want to be jabbed with the point. Its also handy for holding along the length of the forearm to reinforce it.
I'm sure the curved end of a can could be quite handy, although I've not considered the few Korean techniques that I've seen demonstrated to be especially practical - that may be more to do with the basic method of practice however, rather than the effectiveness of the techniques themselves. I'm sure you could use those ideas yourself anyway, for your own exploration.
Another art to look at too might be the cane system attached to French Savate. I don't know much about it but what little I've seen looked potentially useful.
There are of course other alternative to the standard cane. How about this one:
http://www.ltspecpro.com/91was.html
Who could possibly say no to a solid polypropylene knobkerrie?
Mike
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TigerDude
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Seems like a great idea. Also legal to carry on an airplane.
I've seen videos, but I'm leary of learning from the TV.
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bushido_man96
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:37 am Post subject: |
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I really don't think learning the cane will be any more difficult than learning any other weapon. And when in doubt, it can be used much like a kali stick.
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Sengra
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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a i think i heard somewhere about cane fencing...fencing techniques used with a cane...
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bushido_man96
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| Sengra wrote: |
| a i think i heard somewhere about cane fencing...fencing techniques used with a cane... |
It may be something like the French style of La Canne...I think.
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DWx
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I think the English Martial Art of Bartitsu used the cane. Its not a very well known style though and died out ages ago.
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bushido_man96
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Ah, yes, DWx. I have done some reading on Bartitsu, and they actually used La Canne, and brought in an instructor to teach it. Good show! Nice to see someone else has knowledge on this. 
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Montana
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I've worked and trained with many Okinawan weapons over the last 30+ years and the cane is easily assimulated into that training. Personally, I absolutely LOVE working with the cane! It's hands down my favorite.
I have several canes I've picked up at thrift shops and yard sales, but the best cane by far is a cattle or bull cane, found at many ranch/farm stores. It's used to prod cattle. Fairly light weight, but thick, sturdy and strong as hell! I have no idea what it's made of.
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NightOwl
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| DWx wrote: |
| I think the English Martial Art of Bartitsu used the cane. Its not a very well known style though and died out ages ago. |
I read the article, and it looks like quite a style! I think of the many possible weapons you could train, the cane would be one of the most contemporary, and it'd be interesting to see this art revived ala pankration
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on the post.
