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Do you believe that the "Death Touch" Is a real technique?
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marie curie
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 Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yeh, there have been a bunch of stories done on that guy and I'm pretty sure that it has never worked on someone who wasn't his student or friend.
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dete
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Styles: full contact Karate and grappling
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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I believe it's true.
my definition is however more complicated. Often times real life
is not black or white, there are much more cases of shades of grey.
It's true that to me it exists and doesn't threaten me in anyway.
As someone stated before if it did exist we would see a lot more of it.
George Dillman who is famous for his 1 touch KO, once said, if it was
that easy to do, I would be in the UFC and be world champion.
In other words it is NOT that easy to do.
from my research, this is my conclusion,
it is a form of hypnosis.
to hypnotize someone the other person needs to be willing.
does this make it useless or fake?
no, to me martial arts is a very broad categorey.
The human expression of war can cover everything from
physical training, health, mental strength, discipline, life style change,
weapons development, and even psychological and media manipulation
such as propaganda.
by learning how to hypnotize someone in a martial arts medium,
it can be very useful in real combat because when you have two
physically and technically even opponents, then the mind starts to
make a huge difference.
on the other hand, according to my research there is also more physical
side to Dim Mak that has to do with herbs & Assassins.
So I say that is still a skill, I know I can't do it.
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marie curie
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Interesting! From a self-defense point of view, though, doesn't that make it kind of useless, if it only works on the willing?
Again, I've seen a few things on him, and only his students and friends go down. Of course that makes it a neat party trick, but as far as a combat art or martial art, it seems to be without.
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dete
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| marie curie wrote: |
Interesting! From a self-defense point of view, though, doesn't that make it kind of useless, if it only works on the willing?
Again, I've seen a few things on him, and only his students and friends go down. Of course that makes it a neat party trick, but as far as a combat art or martial art, it seems to be without. |
well,
since it only works on the willing, that's the trick huh? you got to make them
willing without knowing that they are willing (does that make sense?)
I say it's like a magic trick, the card magically changes while your looking at his hand, while everything is actually going on in the other hand.
I think you can apply this kind of magic trick to combat 
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Kajukenbopr
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not convinced with the hypnosis argument for being effective in combat.
Maybe there are ways to interact with energy from the body, but IF he's able to do it- at least some of his students should be "close" to developing what he has...
I'm still not convinced, so I will begin research...
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bushido_man96
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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I just don't think it is possible to do physical damage without making physical contact.
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tengu-raven
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| the founder of shotokan did a little research on dim-mak back in his day and funakoshi dismissed those claims. thus far i'd have to agree. sure there are pressure points yet even that's not a sure thing. far as the death-touch? a well delivered blow could have potential for such a thing yet i would'nt count on that. |
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Kajukenbopr
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| tengu-raven wrote: |
| the founder of shotokan did a little research on dim-mak back in his day and funakoshi dismissed those claims. thus far i'd have to agree. sure there are pressure points yet even that's not a sure thing. far as the death-touch? a well delivered blow could have potential for such a thing yet i would'nt count on that. |
Pressure points and acupuncture are used every day around the World, it is not an esoteric art of using energy, it is finding precise locations where nerves are in order to get a desired effect.
In pressure point striking, u need the exact location and also, the necessary pressure applied to get that desired outcome.
People that try to say pressure points and acupuncture do not work simply do not know how to make if work for them.
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bushido_man96
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| Kajukenbopr wrote: |
People that try to say pressure points and acupuncture do not work simply do not know how to make if work for them. |
I think that the main point is that these things don't work the same on everyone. Some people are really "nerve dead," and it doesn't work the same on them.
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Kajukenbopr
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| Kajukenbopr wrote: |
People that try to say pressure points and acupuncture do not work simply do not know how to make if work for them. |
I think that the main point is that these things don't work the same on everyone. Some people are really "nerve dead," and it doesn't work the same on them. |
yeah, i guess i see ur point...
its hard work though, everyone can make their style work for them, if they work hard enough
but throwing energy is way out there with shooting Ki balls
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on the post.
