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Bon
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Joined: 10 Aug 2001
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Location: Australia
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 Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2002 11:20 pm Post subject: The jab. |
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Jack
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Location: England
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2002 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Of course adding some power to a jab is useful, but if you lean in with your shoulder too much you are lessening its speed for the pull back, and since the jab is ment to be a move to break the opponent's attacks, block their vision and set up for more powerful strikes, do you really want to lose that speed?
The people that jab as hard as their grandmother are using it as said above, simply to set up for new moves. Some power in that would be helpful, but too much may find themselves not launching the next proper strike quickly enough.
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Jack
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Location: England
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2002 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| Saying that, I always put a little hip/shoulder movement into my jabs, like I do with all of my strikes. |
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Angus
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Joined: 21 Jun 2001
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2002 1:55 am Post subject: |
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THe jab is a setup technique, mostly... It is not necessarily meant to have any power in it... Sometimes a jab does not even need to connect to be effective, but it allows the attacker to throw the other person out of whack for a second and set up another tech... usually a cross (which is the powerhouse)...
However, i put a deal of power into my jabs cos i don't like to muck around. If i can hit the bloke and make him bleed to end a fight then that's what i'll do. I remember in training one time i checked a low leg kick and sent a jab into the guy's mouth... it was pretty cool.
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YODA
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Joined: 25 Jan 2002
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Location: England (int'north west)
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2002 2:32 am Post subject: |
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We have 4 types of jab - each with it's own method & purpose.
Speed Jab - this is akin to the boxer's jab, used to probe & set up but also has enough "zing" to hurt
Flicker Jab - a pure harrasment. Used to confuse & get a reaction.
Power Jab - The JKD straight lead is a power punch that packs a real wallop. I've ended street fights with one shot using this punch. It's thrown with a vertical fist and uses full body torque & hip structure.
Eye Jab - The good old fingers to the eyes - this in itself has several ways to it.
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Joecooke007
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Joined: 24 Nov 2001
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| Hey! My grandmother is a pro boxer! She can really punch! *JK |
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kicker
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Joined: 17 Sep 2001
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Location: Canada!!!! (The 5th biggest City)
Styles: kickboxing, muay thai, tennis, lots more.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2002 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Well I use my jab more as a quick but not weak punch to the head to through my oppoinent off and quickly attck with something more useful and better.
But if thats not working then all use it as a power shot 
i think it depends on what your style is and want to use your jab.
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KickChick
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Yes I agree with kicker....At least 60% of a boxer's punches will be straight jabs. It's the busiest punch in boxing because it can be thrown quickly without compromising a boxer's defense. In a boxing match the jab is utilized to score, to keep your opponent at bay and to set up combinations and power punches.
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Singularity
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Joined: 29 Nov 2001
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Location: USA
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I like your view on this Yoda, I think the majority of my training involves your "power" jab, with some modifications. My jab is a lot more like a vertical-fist straight blast. I like the versatility of the lead hand, both speed and power can be applied simulatneously or separately, depending on the situation. Just my thoughts.
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Harpoon
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| If this is to do with the TKD jab punch, I got a question... in all those videos where you see Tai Kickboxers, etc.. beating down TKD guys with a flury of punches, its because they have both their arms up and utilized in the pounding. In TKD you are on your side and only one of your hands (the one in front of you) can do the jabs while the other is back at your ribs and used for reverse/back punching which involves the turning of the hips and elevation of the heel. But this doesn't allow for using both arms to pummel an opponent.. |
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