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Kyle-san
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Location: Brandon, Manitoba
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| jiu-jitsu fighter wrote: |
name a martial art that would actually work well against many attackers ,
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-As omnifinite pointed out, an art that uses strikes to vulnerable areas.
-Traditional Jujutsu arts do much better with multiple attackers than a lot of styles.
-Aikido is excellent for multiple attackers once you've gained some proficiency with it.
As I said before, I have respect for BJJ practitioners but don't think the art is the be all end all they make it out to be. The multiple attackers point isn't a big one (most people will probably never use their art in a fight, nevermind against many attackers), but it's an example of a BJJ weakness.
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BISON
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Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| The thing about BJJ versus multiple attackers is that you are lying on your back with your legs wide open. That is no way to take on a group of guys. |
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rb
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Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 404
Styles: judo, bjj
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| Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Bison,
I sincerely hope you never encounter a competent grappler. |
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Kensai
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Joined: 05 Jul 2002
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Location: Britain
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| Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Was thinking the same thing rb.  |
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jiu-jitsu fighter
Brown Belt
Joined: 02 Jan 2003
Posts: 606
Styles: praying mantis, ninjutsu, BJJ,Blauer
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| Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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bison i wish you were right in front of me when you said that i would show you not to mess with a decent grappler
and which are do u study hmmm?
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EnergyBoxer
White Belt
Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 24
Styles: Wing Chun, JKD, Dan Zan Ryu/ Brazilian Jujitsu, Kali, Chinese Hawaiian Kempo,Tai Chi, F.M.A. ,.........
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I study two different types of Jujitsu , one bieng BJJ, the other, Dan Zan Ryu, and from experience I can say that in a BJJ match, or a straight up grappling match,(limited striking matches also), Jujitsu is proven it's reliability, but seriously, in a life threating situation when self preservation is key, any art/style that is based around competition is'nt going to teach someone to Gouge the eyes with no remorse, and to Bite when ever the chance becomes availible, These two "moves" are not allowed in Jujitsu for a reason , it would be too easy to win , you can find your opponants eyes and sink in your thumbs, or as soon as you get a chance bite a chunk outta him. But this is just my opinion.
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BISON
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| Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| relax, my original post was edited and i can see why. all im sayin is if youre lying on your back with your legs wide open, you're not very mobile are you. bad idea to be immobile and on your back when there's more than one guy waiting to give you a piece. common sense folks. |
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EnergyBoxer
White Belt
Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 24
Styles: Wing Chun, JKD, Dan Zan Ryu/ Brazilian Jujitsu, Kali, Chinese Hawaiian Kempo,Tai Chi, F.M.A. ,.........
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I agree with you, mobility is key.
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jiu-jitsu fighter
Brown Belt
Joined: 02 Jan 2003
Posts: 606
Styles: praying mantis, ninjutsu, BJJ,Blauer
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ok great energyboxer , noone said you couldn't do that in a fight, but to make competion safer they remove those aspects of combat
than why'd you say that bison , and you still didn't answer my question?
being on your back is a defensive position, you don't know much about bjj do you,
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EnergyBoxer
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Yes i do know alot about Jujitsu, that's thats not the question, it was , and still is , BJJ vs TMA, and BJJ is a limited style, you can't really compare a sport drivin style against a self preservation system, or any style that employs the use of "serious vital attacks", the goals are different.
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on the post.
