Thoughts on brazillian jujutsu versus TMAs?

jiu-jitsu fighter · Brown Belt

bjj is not a sport to everyone you need to understand that, there are plenty of instructors that teach it as a self defense, because that is what it was created as.

do you think judo is a sport also? and can't be compared with a self defense?

what the h*ll do you think we do in bjj, we brake bones and chokes and positional dominance all these things are essential in a fight,

its only limited if you want it to be
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Kensai · Black Belt

Personally whether its a sport or not makes no different. Judo, BJJ and Boxing, which I consider "more" sport related than say Aikido, Karate and Kung Fu. This is mainly due to the fact that the styles commercialisation has made it so "rules and regulations" have to be introduced so these Super Athletes dont kill each other.

A throw in Judo or BJJ is going to hurt just a much on a pavement as a throw from Aikido, Ninjutsu, Chin Na, Tai Chi........etc. Its all the same at the end of the day.

They all teach you the basic prinicples of Combat and anyone that tells you other wise it lying or misinformed. More or less ALL styles have been at a "self defence" stage of their developement.

But doing a sport style does not make you any less able to handle yourself in a "real" fight, assuming that you dont freeze up.

An eye gouge, pulling hair and all the other nasty tricks are not hard to use, so if say in Judo I dont get taught those particular attacks, but if I have you in a scarf hold, I am gonna go for your eyes. But in competition, there is no point having that, unless you want 400 blind Judoka walking into one another.

Just IMVHO ofcourse.

EnergyBoxer · White Belt

I know that all BJJ schools are not sport drivin, i doubt your breaking any bones in yours. It may sound extreme, but my teacher will MAKE me dig my thumb in his eye, while saying"that's not hard enough!" " you wanna dig it out!" . Point is, you fight like you train. And if your not equaly versed in the stand up position as you are in the mount/gaurd positions you will always find yourself there, or atleast that's where you want to be cuz that's where your comfortable. Making it limited. Like i said i study two types of Jujitsu, BJJ and DAN ZAN, but i will never count on their techniques alone to win a fight.
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LOILOI44 · Orange Belt

EnergyBoxer · White Belt

I know the "nasty techs" are taught in traditional schools, and like you said they are normally not taught full contact. I agree with the the old saying, "you fight like you train" . I also belive in the concept of "muscle memory", a attribute you obtain after doing a tech many times (thousands) , and if your training to " Control, Change, Finish, everyday, doing submissions, reversals, whatever the case maybe, your going to do that in a fight. So the guy that trains everyday to go to the eyes, groin, throat, sternum, over and over and over without limitation will have a better chance, this type of person will have a different goal, There will always be a vital target close enough to strike or grasp, no matter what type of submission attempt. This person trains to survive .
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jiu-jitsu fighter · Brown Belt

yes and im taught to control the rists ,so people can't do that to me
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LOILOI44 · Orange Belt

jiu-jitsu fighter · Brown Belt

you control the opponents wrists and lets say

push one of them outside of your guard for a triangle choke ,thats one example.

you control your opponents wrists to control him until you are ready to go for a submission.

you can control your opponents wrists from mount than take one and go for the arm bar(from mount),

many things,
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