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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: TKD and Thai boxing Reply with quote

Years ago, I read an article in Black Belt magazine about a practitioner in Florida who combined the two styles to come with some quite unique concepts.

He showed various Thai kicking mixed with some TKD's quick kicking, and some counter stuff.

I was wondering what you all though about combining the two styles. I know most of us have seen the Muay Thai vs. TKD video, so that might be a good reference point.

I'll start: Thai fighters would gain some different footwork applications. I think the TKD guy would gain better punching power, low kick applications, and some toughness.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have wondered about this. i like the idea, our sytem of tkd is pretty tough though, i would like to learn some elbos and knees though. we drill with knees and elbos but not with sparring. not yet!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:48 am    Post subject: Thai boxing and TKD Reply with quote

I am not sure how you would safely incorporate knees and elbows into the sparring
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More than three years back, I had saved a good Black Belt Magazine article on TKD-MT comparison and combination. The Florida-based master you have hinted before is most probably Master Sang Koo Kang featured in this article. The article was part of BBM's December 2002 edition. Unfortunately, the online link for the article is no longer available. Luckily I still have the copy I have saved over three years back. Feel free to download the following MS Word file, into which I have copied everything from the web page archive for the article.

http://rapidshare.de/files/22791482/Black_Belt_Magazine_Dec2002_-_TNT.doc.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject: TKD and Thai boxing Reply with quote

kepundengz2003 wrote:
More than three years back, I had saved a good Black Belt Magazine article on TKD-MT comparison and combination. The Florida-based master you have hinted before is most probably Master Sang Koo Kang featured in this article. The article was part of BBM's December 2002 edition. Unfortunately, the online link for the article is no longer available. Luckily I still have the copy I have saved over three years back. Feel free to download the following MS Word file, into which I have copied everything from the web page archive for the article.

http://rapidshare.de/files/22791482/Black_Belt_Magazine_Dec2002_-_TNT.doc.html


Thank you. I have the article myself...can't bring myself to throw away all of those old magazines away

There were some interesting combinations and concepts in that article. I loved the way he put them together.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got that article as well - I enjoyed it. However, as to the comment about footwork, tkd footwork is horrible for muay thai. other than that, I think the two can work well together.

Knees can safely be incorporated. elbows are harder. generally, we don't spar with elbows.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:02 pm    Post subject: TKD and Thai boxing Reply with quote

elbows_and_knees wrote:
I've got that article as well - I enjoyed it. However, as to the comment about footwork, tkd footwork is horrible for muay thai. other than that, I think the two can work well together.

Knees can safely be incorporated. elbows are harder. generally, we don't spar with elbows.


I know that Thai boxing does not move the feet quite as much as TKD does, but could the TKD footwork lend to the mobility of a Thai boxer?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure it could - but I prefer boxing - it's less slide and lunge oriented. Whenever the TKD guys in my class slide or lunge, they slide right into one of my strikes. They telegraph a lot with the footwork. boxing footwork is mobile, but not as exaggerated.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject: TKD and Thai boxing Reply with quote

elbows_and_knees wrote:
I'm sure it could - but I prefer boxing - it's less slide and lunge oriented. Whenever the TKD guys in my class slide or lunge, they slide right into one of my strikes. They telegraph a lot with the footwork. boxing footwork is mobile, but not as exaggerated.


Ahhhh, I see. Is Thai footwork and boxing footwork similar, or are the boxers a little more mobile?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the boxing foot work is much more mobile. thai boxing is brutal - just suck it up and take it, basically. consequently, there's not a whole lot of evasion, mainly absorption, rolling with the strikes and parries.
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