Top 10 self-defense arts-What do you guys think?

Tobias_Reece · Brown Belt

I have noticed something about these threads to do with 'most effective' martial arts. Most people seem to be obsessed with Muay Thai, BJJ etc., yet are forgetting the european arts.

Practitioners using the Longbow killed many more people in history than any Thai boxer. Same with the sword - did the Crusaders grapple their opponents using a scarf hold? No, they used their superior weapons skills to defeat the Saracans. (I think it was the saracans - G95, feel free to correct me

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What about swords on a smaller scale? The Romans were one of the greatest civilisations in both culture and combat. They conquered many countries with their tactics and weapons - and I bet they didn't do shin kicks or mock Tae Kwon Do practictioners (joke you see).

So, maybe its something to think about. But, I dunno, I'll see what you all think.
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jmy77 · Orange Belt

My opinion is based on this day and age. While you are correct, I don't think local law enforcement would be to happy with people running around with swords and other weapons.
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Kensai · Black Belt

Nice Tobais,

I am still in shock that a MMA person put lowly Aikido on the list.

Tobias_Reece · Brown Belt

Kensai - I thought I'd insert my own witty retorte in this instance. Oh, and stop calling me "Tobais"!!! Its "I" before "A".

Anyway, I think I'm going to do something equally exciting. Yup, you guessed it, I'm going to take over France (just like I tried to do yesterday).
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jiu-jitsu fighter · Brown Belt

7 and 8 should replace 3 and 4 and i agree with you a little , but its really hard to judge if you haven't studied all of these arts , so don't make assumptions
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Radok · Brown Belt

1. Okinawan Karate
2. Shoalin Kung Fu
3. Jui-jitsu
4. Akido
5. Hapkido
6. BJJ
7. Judo
8. traditional TKD
9. MMA
10. Muay Thai

Least Affective

1. American Kickboxing
2. WTF TKD
3. Shootfighting
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jiu-jitsu fighter · Brown Belt

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TJS · Black Belt

Radok-I think that list would be pretty hard to justify, It looks complety off the scale as far as reality self defense.

I dont like to put them in order, because it depends but my top 10 would be.

KRAV MAGA-covers all areas of the fight, simple aggresive and down to earth fighting...very complete and a nicely integrated system that will work in the real world under stress.

BJJ-has it's downfalls like any other style such as multiple attackers and various terrain/weapons, but the fact is 1 on 1 someone who is well versed in bjj will dominate an opponet...and can be a great equalizer for size and strenght.

MUAY THAI-arguably the best standup fighting stlye int he world, covers all ranges of standup fighting..lacks ground and weapons but never the less it is extremly effective.

JUDO-the throws can be pretty effective on most people, a good throw can end a fight pretty quickly and clothes often help the matter. most schools in the US foucus to much on sport and have too many rules whitch can watter it down.

WRESTLING, the ability to avoid a takedown is very important in a real fight, also even if you cant trade punches with someone landing them flat on their back will turn them into a fish out of water. obviously is not well rounded but very effective what they do.

BOXING, also pretty one dimensional, but they are good at what they do and lets face it having good hands is pretty important since alot of people just start swinging and like to trade punches, boxing also teaches you the ability to take a hit and keep going-something alot of people lack.

Akido-I belive it takes waayy to long to become practial and work under stress of a real fight and proabably wouldent work very well on a trained fighter, but if you got to that point it would definetly be cool.

ESCRIMA-dont know too many details but i have heard good things about it

KALI-see description for escrima

SILAT-same as escrima

JKDChick · White Belt

I had a black belt in TKD.
I'm a sabre fencer, though I had to drop out after hand surgery.
I've taken JKD/Kali/BJJ for two years.

TKD, as taught in North America, is DANGEROUS to anyone who thinks they could use it in a fight.

Aikido is fine for self-defense, if you've been doing it for ten years.

Boxing, kick-boxing -- the simplest, most effective defense arts.

You know what trumps them all?

Nike-Fu.

Run away.
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Mayur · Yellow Belt

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