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Zanshin
Purple Belt
Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 530
Styles: Wado Ryu Karate, Daito Ryu Aiki-Jujutsu, Ono-Ha Itto-Ryu Kenjutsu
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 Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Unforgivable Rules |
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| Do you or your Instructor/Dojo have any terminable, unforgivable rules? I understand that everyone has some rules for their class/students, but do you have any rules that will get a student permanently expelled from the class? |
Not paying 
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lordtariel
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 1709
Location: Oregon
Styles: (Past)Judo, Yang Family Tai Chi, (Current)Shito-Ryu Karate, Kobudo(Tonfajitsu)
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Unforgivable Rules |
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We'd be required to commit seppuku. 
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Azmyth
Orange Belt
Joined: 30 Aug 2003
Posts: 103
Location: Arabi Ga
Styles: ITF Tae Kwon Do, Jiu Jitsu, American Kenpo, Modern Arnis
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to make this a little more interesting.. there are a few rules that an instructor might break that would cause a student to leave.
1. class interuptions to sell health foods and meds, enough of which to cause me to not learn anything that class.
2. selling drugs that allow people to pass drug tests
3. passing people soley on the money they paid.
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Ottman
Blue Belt
Joined: 08 Nov 2004
Posts: 346
Location: Boston
Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Jeet Kune Do (Concepts), Brazilian Ju Jitsu, Capoeira, Samurai combative arts (Nami Ryu Aiki Heiho)
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Heh, good one Zanshin. 
My old instructor was actually somewhat lax when it came to late payments/not paying, and she would make arrangements with a student rather than expel him. I'd guess about 50% of instructors would be ok with making an alternative payment arrangement rather than losing a student, but there are those who are very 'money-centric' as well of course.
The only time I've ever heard of anyone being expelled from that school was a younger student who had repeatedly vandalized the school. He got more chances than he deserved to clean up his act IMO too. (I'd have expelled him after the first time, or if I was in a very patient mood, I'd give him ONE more chance.) He was about 9, and was drawing on walls repeatedly, tearing wallpaper down, and the last straw that finally got him expelled: defecating in the bathroom, but not in the toilet. (Ewww)
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Ottman
Blue Belt
Joined: 08 Nov 2004
Posts: 346
Location: Boston
Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Jeet Kune Do (Concepts), Brazilian Ju Jitsu, Capoeira, Samurai combative arts (Nami Ryu Aiki Heiho)
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| Azmyth wrote: |
to make this a little more interesting.. there are a few rules that an instructor might break that would cause a student to leave.
1. class interuptions to sell health foods and meds, enough of which to cause me to not learn anything that class.
2. selling drugs that allow people to pass drug tests
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Wow, an instructor of yours really did this?
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3. passing people soley on the money they paid. |
I'm afraid this is becoming a more common occurrence in MA schools these days. Kind of takes something away not only from the martial arts, but from the students that do deserve to pass based on the hard work and discipline they've put in and demonstrated. I'm not saying that relative skill compared to the student next to them should matter so much, but if a student puts in the work to improve his skill and leaves his heart out there on the testing floor, and another student does nothing, and has shown no improvement or serious dedication to their training, they should certainly not be passed.
This is one of the many reasons I left my old school. Our tests were beginning to get easier and easier and my instructor was definitely more focused on who had paid, and much less on the MA. It's strange, because she is much more financially successful, with many more students now, than before when she was more focused on MA technique. I guess when capitalism consumes you, it really does.
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Azmyth
Orange Belt
Joined: 30 Aug 2003
Posts: 103
Location: Arabi Ga
Styles: ITF Tae Kwon Do, Jiu Jitsu, American Kenpo, Modern Arnis
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yes he did.. on several occasions.. i left because of it.
amongst other things.
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on the post.
