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Sibylla
Orange Belt
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I will try to develop my "do not mess with me, kids" - stare 
Thanks for the advice guys, my mind is more at ease now. |
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AngelaG
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 24 Jul 2004
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Location: Devon, UK
Styles: Shotokan
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If you do not want to teach, then do not teach. It really is as simple as that!
If your instructor wants you to teach, and you are in agreement, then you should be taught how to teach before you are put in front of a class!
http://www.24fightingchickens.com/2006/10/13/assistant-instructors/
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Sibylla
Orange Belt
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Is it? What if the sensei has an broader agenda with this..making an statement and maybe "smoking out" some negative behavior that exist in the class? That might lead to a greater good for all of us. But if that is so, he has to back me up in the process.
I am familiar with the work of Rob Redmond, and I agree with a lot of what he is saying. But being taught to teach is an ideal, not within reach for all of us. |
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AngelaG
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 24 Jul 2004
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Location: Devon, UK
Styles: Shotokan
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| Is it? What if the sensei has an broader agenda with this..making an statement and maybe "smoking out" some negative behavior that exist in the class? |
Well in that hypothetical situation I personally think that his behaviour would be twice as bad. You are a student, and he should not be using you. Especially not for some ulterior motive.
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AngelaG
Pre-Black Belt
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Location: Devon, UK
Styles: Shotokan
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Sibylla wrote: |
| But being taught to teach is an ideal, not within reach for all of us. |
Why? He is a teacher himself! Surely if he cares about your, and the other students' development, then he would take the time to make sure that you know how to teach effectively? Just knowing your martial art is not enough... teaching is an entirely different animal.
It seems like it is already fostering resentment. This may be jealousy, or it may be because people feel that by having an untrained instructor teaching them that they are not getting "value for money".
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Sibylla
Orange Belt
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I partly agree with what you are saying here, from an ideal viewpoint. But my instructor is not a teacher, he has no teacher credentials, pedagogic training that I know of. Neither do anyone else. It would be great if him and all of us had some kind of program that we could go through, but we do not.
Ulterior motives can be bad, especially if they are hidden and there are desicions made that directly affects single persons, leaving them without a voice. And he put this on me without any explanation. If I do not get an satisfying explanation and see that he follows it up, it is clear that "sempaing" is something I should say no to. |
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NightOwl
KF Sempai
Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 987
Location: Japan
Styles: This and that, Rookie Judo
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Might as well give it a try for a bit but if you really don't want it, you are under no obligation to fill a teacher role.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 12924
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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| AngelaG wrote: |
| Surely if he cares about your, and the other students' development, then he would take the time to make sure that you know how to teach effectively? Just knowing your martial art is not enough... teaching is an entirely different animal. |
This is so true. I think that when put in a position like this, it is the instructor's duty to help you be as successful as possible by showing you the ropes before throwing you to the wolves.
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Sibylla
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| I will talk with the sensei about it as soon as the occasion is there for a more private talk. |
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NightOwl
KF Sempai
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Styles: This and that, Rookie Judo
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Remember, you are a CUSTOMER, not a disciple. Sometimes instructors forget that I think ; )
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on the post.
