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Safroot
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:25 pm    Post subject: Using Gloves ! Reply with quote

Hi all,
I was just wondering do you use or encourage your students to use Gloves while training either on punching pad/bags or during sparring ? & why ?!

I have always had the impression that karate & kung fu (MA I am familiar with) use bare hands while training & fighting !!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is very much a decision that is made on a school by school basis, and a student by student basis. Generally, unless it is a sparring class we don't have them hit bags or pads with gloves. Since we do wear gloves when we spar, for the most part, any bagwork or padwork we do leading up to it will be done with gloves, so students get a better feel for it before throwing strikes at a partner. We do sometimes spar without gloves, but it's simply not as safe, and when it comes down to it, we want students to be uninjured so they can keep training, so gloves are used the majority of the time for sparring. We also have students wear gloves for hitting things if they have injuries like torn or cut skin--they can tape it up and put a glove on to keep it from getting worse, but still train. Bone and connective tissue injuries are a different story--no contact, period, until your doctor clears you.
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Safroot
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wastelander wrote:
That is very much a decision that is made on a school by school basis, and a student by student basis. Generally, unless it is a sparring class we don't have them hit bags or pads with gloves. Since we do wear gloves when we spar, for the most part, any bagwork or padwork we do leading up to it will be done with gloves, so students get a better feel for it before throwing strikes at a partner. We do sometimes spar without gloves, but it's simply not as safe, and when it comes down to it, we want students to be uninjured so they can keep training, so gloves are used the majority of the time for sparring. We also have students wear gloves for hitting things if they have injuries like torn or cut skin--they can tape it up and put a glove on to keep it from getting worse, but still train. Bone and connective tissue injuries are a different story--no contact, period, until your doctor clears you.


Ok , it's good to know
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We used a variety of gloves. MMA style gloves for have bag work or prolonged mitts. 16 oz. boxing gloves for pure hands work. Kempo gloves for SD stuff. Hockey/ Lacross gloves for weapons work (I still use these in PTK training).

It really just varies by school and application. Each specific goal focused night demands a specific set of safety gear.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only time students are required to wear gloves is during Kumite. Other than that, the wearing of gloves is left up to the student. It's our practice to not wear gloves for most of the time, because, the wearing of them become more of a hindrance than an aid while we're engaging in our brand of Tuite.




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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tallgeese wrote:
It really just varies by school and application. Each specific goal focused night demands a specific set of safety gear.


Thanks tallgeese, good point
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sensei8 wrote:
Only time students are required to wear gloves is during Kumite. Other than that, the wearing of gloves is left up to the student.





In the new dojo , they recommend it for kumite & for bag/pad work as well
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Nidan Melbourne
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a school based thing. At my dojo for sparring we utilize gloves, yet for the punching bags etc we do not use them.

However our senior yudansha do not often use gloves for more of a realistic approach to training.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tallgeese wrote:
We used a variety of gloves. MMA style gloves for have bag work or prolonged mitts. 16 oz. boxing gloves for pure hands work. Kempo gloves for SD stuff. Hockey/ Lacross gloves for weapons work (I still use these in PTK training).

It really just varies by school and application. Each specific goal focused night demands a specific set of safety gear.


We do something similar. Lacking the weapons aspect to need the hockey gloves. MMA "sparring gloves" for a lot of sparring. Boxing gloves some nights, especially for new folks until we get a feel for how they will do. MMA fight weight gloves for special occasions when everyone is going home all pretty. For mitt work, we almost never wear gloves.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wear what you are training for. If you are in a sport type martial art then wear what you do when sparring; just stands to reason.

I wear light Velcro strap gloves when working out, outdoors (similar to what bicyclists use) as doing knuckle pushups on gravel cement and using metal handrails in exercise routines is less damaging to hands.

Grappling gloves are convenient for light resistance training against a partner.

Never use boxing gloves as they are intended for (sport) boxing and the time to wrap the hands and wrists don't seem justifiable or realistic for our mo; Wing Chun.
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