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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject: What Are Techniques? Reply with quote

What are techniques?

Are they nothing more than empty spoken words?
Are they lifelessness within a void?

Techniques can only come to life with the help of a passionate and meaningful practitioner. One who can breathe life into any said technique(s).

Technique(s) can't be encapsulated without discovery and/or research for its core effectiveness.

As with any technique(s) that's viable and tangible, it must be nourished so that it has effective means and purposes.

Any technique(s) will die away, to be swept away, and discarded if they are nothing more than empty words.

Let the discussion begin.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh boy...I did it again...I created another uninterested thread...SORRY!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Practitioners of any MA that are only knowledgeable in spoken words and not knowledgeable in application are the bane of the MA.

Having verbal/conversational knowledge maybe great for moments around a campfire, but application knowledge is paramount/tantamount for a MAist. Bringing a technique(s) to an effective life is what I'm referring to.

The expression..."Swimming on dry land" takes a different meaning to me. If one can't do, then all of the verbiage won't help. Either one can or one can't.

Again...to me...proof is on the floor...ALWAYS!!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure what to say to this, but that might be because we don't really define "techniques" as core, so much as we care about the building blocks which are used to construct them..
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does one want an instructor that only has verbal knowledge?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I thought at first. I really think that techniques are a way to improve your knowledge of the form.
I wouldn't say, now, that they are just empty words that have no meaning. My instructor said it's a way to have students better understand the meaning of our forms; and to, overall, improve how we do it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does an instructor versed only in verbal knowledge effectively teach an application, especially if that type has never "experienced" an application themselves??


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.. what are you understanding a "technique" as? A movement? An application? A sequence of movements to achieve an application?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JusticeZero wrote:
Well.. what are you understanding a "technique" as?

Any effective means to an end.

JusticeZero wrote:
A movement? An application? A sequence of movements to achieve an application?

Yes and/or yes and/or yes.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the extension of a punch a different technique than the return of that punch to your guard, for instance? As that is how we detail it.
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