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ps1
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adonis wrote:
Honestly, I would probably just scream, cry, and then when the get up in total disgust and walk away at my pathetic display. I kick them in the back, and run away. That will show them!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am glad you enjoyed my humor

Honestly for that situation or any on the ground I think of the quote that I think JJ Machado or one of the Machado's used.

"The ground is my ocean, and I am the shark, and most people don't even know how to swim."

That quote fits perfectly in those situations if people don't train for that sort of stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cover my face with both forearms, use my elbows to find his groin, in case that doesnt work, I would proceed to strike the neck or eyes.

if he defends by getting closer to my torso or face, i start biting...
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ps1
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adonis wrote:
I am glad you enjoyed my humor

Honestly for that situation or any on the ground I think of the quote that I think JJ Machado or one of the Machado's used.

"The ground is my ocean, and I am the shark, and most people don't even know how to swim."

That quote fits perfectly in those situations if people don't train for that sort of stuff.


Agreed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

considering each situation is different, i would chop the inside of the elbow of the arm on my throat, wrap both arms around the OP and bite his/her chest until they pull away then escape
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I have the scenerio mixed up, but if he is choking me with the left, and ready to strike with the right, I am going to try and deflect the strike with my left arm, causing my opponents balance to come down towards me giving me an opportunity to reach up with my left for the top of his head (hopefully hair) and cup his chin with my right hand. Then I am going to twist his head counter clockwise hard and fast. He will come off because he is injured or for the fear of getting his neck broken.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: Re: What would you do if... Reply with quote

ps1 wrote:
Ok,

This one's for non-grapplers. I already know your answers. I'm curious to see how the non-grappler would react in the following situation:

Somehow someone tackled you and is now mounted on top of you. Their hand is at your throat and they are about to punch you. What do you feel you would do?

Clearly you're in a bad sitiuation. Try to avoid the cliche' answers like, "I wouldn't get there" or "I'd knee him as he takes me down." You're there...what do you like to do to defend yourself?

As a disclaimer, I don't want this to turn into any kind of flame either. If you don't agree with how someone handles the situation, please say so respectfully.


Im happy you wrote this question because this is were my art is dominate against others , i know bits and pieces from hundreds of different martial arts which gives me a huge advantage in that situation, im not saying i know everything because im still very much in the learning circle of all aspects of martial arts but i know enough to get out of that situation with out a sweat.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you guys know what an oil check is? If not, I will NOT elaborate. If so, you know that it works.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenpo4life wrote:
Do you guys know what an oil check is? If not, I will NOT elaborate. If so, you know that it works.


Hehe, an old Wrestling move...I am aware of it. A bit on the desperation side, I would say, but effective. My youngest brother used to great effect a few times.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm glad we're talking about this, just from the people who posted "i'd strike to the ribs and the solar plexus". it's important to keep in mind that if you're lying on your back, you're not going to have the same kind of power as you do on your feet. you don't have the kinetic energy that comes from pushing and pivoting off the ground; that's why you learn all of that foot work in the first place.
if you don't know any grappling skills or small joint manipulation, and it's a life/death situation, your best bet is to "play dirty", something i imagine is especially handy against someone who's trained to grapple and doesn't have to worry about things like biting and eye gouging. i would say those are your best bets.
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