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MasterPain
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2010
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Location: Parts Unknown
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Psycho Drive and Spanish Ninjitsu
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Did they change the scene in later editions? I just watched a clip where Greedo did shoot first. Was Lucas trying to make Han more heroic? Seems stupid to do so, he was meant to be a Byronic hero, at times even an antihero.
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Liver Punch
Green Belt
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 417
Location: Snake Mountain
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Pro Wrestling, Gun-Fu
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Originally, Han just blows him away. They then modified it so Greedo shot first by a large margin - and somehow completely missed at point blank range, at which point Han returns fire and kills him. The final version of it was them firing at almost the same time. (Greedo still first and still missing)
He wanted Han to be more heroic or some such stupid thing...honestly, I think they wanted the bounty hunter/smuggler/mercenary to be a better role model. That, of course, makes perfect sense. Anyhow, if you want the unmolested version, you've got to watch it on Laserdisc.
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Groinstrike
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Posts: 920
Location: Jabba's Palace
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Krav Maga, Jeet Kune Do, MMA, Mandalorian Jiu-Jitsu
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My final straw with anything related to Mr. George "I love Ewoks" Lucas was the release of the 4th intstallment of the Indiana Jones Saga. The title shall not be named, but im suprised that Lucas didn't change the title to "Dr. Henry Ravenwood Jones's Happy Fun Time Nazi Shoot em up Hour.
I literally lost faith in humanity for about two weeks after watching that garbage.
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MasterPain
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2010
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Location: Parts Unknown
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Psycho Drive and Spanish Ninjitsu
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George Lucas probably put the Indian guy up on the deal there. Kali Ma!
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Liver Punch
Green Belt
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 417
Location: Snake Mountain
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Pro Wrestling, Gun-Fu
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99% of the world's population officially has no idea what we're talking about. Also, the 4th installment of Indiana Jones never happened. IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!
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Zaine
Brown Belt
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 691
Location: Arlington, TX
Styles: Shorin Ryu, Long Fist, American Street Karate, Mantis
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| "Dr. Henry Ravenwood Jones's Happy Fun Time Nazi Shoot em up Hour." |
What a beautiful representation of that movie.
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Groinstrike
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Posts: 920
Location: Jabba's Palace
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Krav Maga, Jeet Kune Do, MMA, Mandalorian Jiu-Jitsu
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| Liver Punch wrote: |
| 99% of the world's population officially has no idea what we're talking about. Also, the 4th installment of Indiana Jones never happened. IT NEVER HAPPENED!!! |
We have officially hijacked our own thread, we went from discussing the misrepresentation of a book alledgedly about the star wars universe, and turned into a george lucas hate thread with a touch of jim cornette shoot interview. |
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Liver Punch
Green Belt
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 417
Location: Snake Mountain
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Pro Wrestling, Gun-Fu
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Yeah...it's a lost cause at this point. I consider it good "revenge" for all the kata threads that I can't even begin to understand.
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Patrick
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Hello Liver Punch,
Thank you for sharing this. I know you have a good sense of humor and I appreciate your honesty in that way. 
As you review books online and post reviews on Amazon.com, etc., definitely keep in mind that your words have a great deal of power. Definitely consider the book as a whole, good and bad and it's value relative to price.
I can't speak for this book, but having authored a book that was picked up by a fairly major publisher, etc., I can tell you that it is a challenging process and that it takes a certain measure of courage to write one, to put yourself out there like that. There is a certain vulnerability to it.
Just some thoughts that you may want to consider: http://www.patrickokeefe.com/2009/12/09/when-reviewing-a-book-please-know-that-your-words-are-very-powerful/
Bottom line, as long as you are honest and fair - awesome.
It is also important to recognize that everyone will value things differently. There is nothing to save anyone from. Some people will like the book (judging from reviews posted elsewhere) and some people won't. It doesn't necessarily make it good or bad, it just means that you didn't personally enjoy it. I think it's important to keep that context.
I have emailed Mr. Jamilla to point him to this thread and invite him to join our community. I hope he does as it'd be interesting to hear his thoughts.
Sincerely,
Patrick
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WolverineGuy
Red Belt
Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Posts: 753
Location: Flint, MI
Styles: Kalkinodo, San Chin Ryu, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo
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Well, it's official, everyone in this thread is a nerd. It's a good thing. |
Nerds unite!
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on the post.
