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KarateK
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 1407
Location: N/West England, UK
Styles: Shukokai Karate
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I agree - Crouching Tiger was much more of a traditional MA film in my opinion. Yes it relied on camera trickery (is that a word?) but it got top marks for true style.
I would go with street fighter though, and Raul Julia (RIP) was veeerrryy scary, not in a good way.
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bbk2132
Yellow Belt
Joined: 10 May 2006
Posts: 64
Location: Spokane WA
Styles: goju ryu, and just starting chinese wushu
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| kung pow enter the fist,....or whatever it was called |
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What about Kung Phooey and Kung Fu Hustle? They're just as bad too! |
yeah but come on...they wern't ment to be quality MA movies. They were supposed to be funny, and i laughed.
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Sengra
Purple Belt
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 521
Location: Philippines
Styles: Fencing
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| bbk2132 wrote: |
| RichardGregory wrote: |
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| granmasterchen wrote: |
| kung pow enter the fist,....or whatever it was called |
agreed |
What about Kung Phooey and Kung Fu Hustle? They're just as bad too! |
yeah but come on...they wern't ment to be quality MA movies. They were supposed to be funny, and i laughed. |
Hear! Hear!!! Kung Fu Hustle was funny... 
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mantis.style
Orange Belt
Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 177
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:17 am Post subject: |
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I think Karete Kid was a bad film for martial arts.
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Sengra
Purple Belt
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 521
Location: Philippines
Styles: Fencing
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| I think Karete Kid was a bad film for martial arts. |
Maybe...but as was discussed in other threads, it also did some good to MA, namely fostering an interest in MA, especially from the youth...
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NightOwl
KF Sempai
Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 988
Location: Japan
Styles: This and that, Rookie Judo
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Sengra wrote: |
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| I think Karete Kid was a bad film for martial arts. |
Maybe...but as was discussed in other threads, it also did some good to MA, namely fostering an interest in MA, especially from the youth... |
Yes but it IMO caused the 'I want my 8 year old to be just like the karate kid' mentality that gave rise to the modern Mcdojo. MAs instead of being something that very few people knew about became something that was at first admired, but then became so watered down that to say you've got a black belt in a MA means nothing anymore. I'd rather have a small core group of MAs then have it be so widespread and potrayed as a magic pill that makes you invincible or something that's 'just for kids'. In the veiw of the mainstream (much due to the karate kid in my opinion), MAs are something that you do up until you are about 14, and if you continue past then you need to grow up. I sometimes wish I could go back to the rougher years when people thought Karate was the name of a Japanese car company and you could expect a few bruises at the end of every class inside someone's garage. I say: most damaging movie ever
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 13452
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, and I research Medieval Combat
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I don't really understand how the Karate Kid movies could be partially responsible for the McDojo movement. Machio's character was a teenager in the movie.
I feel that if any fingers are to be pointed about the rash of McDojos, it is towards the instructors who let their standards go down in order to make it easier for the kids.
Kid's wrestling isn't easy, and they still do it. MA for kids can be the same. I think that it is possible to still make it fun for kids, but it doesn't have to be easy.
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Sengra
Purple Belt
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 521
Location: Philippines
Styles: Fencing
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Hmmm...McDojos...Yes I think I would agree with bushido_man96 on this...Elitism only breeds ignorance on the part of the masses, ignorance that causes the mysticism that makes it 'widespread and potrayed as a magic pill that makes you invincible or something that's 'just for kids''.
I had a classmate back in high school who did MA since he was 4. I could really say that MA had a very big influence in his life. He was very disciplined and careful in his undertakings. He was the one who encouraged me to train back in the MA's.
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dreambig73
White Belt
Joined: 28 Dec 2006
Posts: 21
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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| Two of the worst I have seen are "Tiger Heart" and "No Retreat, No Surrender." Van Damme was in the latter and it was kind of a joke. Also, anything with Sasha Mitchell! |
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Sengra
Purple Belt
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 521
Location: Philippines
Styles: Fencing
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| dreambig73 wrote: |
| Two of the worst I have seen are "Tiger Heart" and "No Retreat, No Surrender." Van Damme was in the latter and it was kind of a joke. Also, anything with Sasha Mitchell! |
Ever experienced a Van Damme movie marathon...
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on the post.
