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NightOwl
KF Sempai


Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 981
Location: Japan
Styles: This and that, Rookie Judo
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Hm- standard class we have separate standing and ground fighting sparring sessions.
For standing, as soon as someone goes to the ground it is over; for groundwork a sub or 30 second long pin ends things. While I suppose an ippon or sub 'wins', these sparring matches are for resistance training and it doesn't really matter who comes out on top or not (part of the fallacy is that sparring is for sport and not training).
As for actual matches, I've never been in one so I only know the general rules. A throw or takedown is ippon, or point. If there is no clear takedown and things go to the ground, then there is roughly 30 seconds allowed for either a point by 30 second long pin or win by submission. In the past a lot more time was allowed for groundfighting, but the rules were changed to make things more dynamic for the Olympics. _________________ Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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DWx
KF Sensei


Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 1035
Location: UK
Styles: Tae Kwon Do & Yang family Tai Chi
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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We tend to separate sport and selfdefense. In sport rules you actually get more points for high section and jumping techniques so "non-practical" methods are promoted here. Also hand techniques are limited to just punches in sport rules. Any kick you want can be done but it must be above the belt.
We do have a more relaxed rule set for SD. No pads generally (although headguards if we're on the hard floor). Take-downs, grabs, gouges (no contact here though) allowed. _________________ "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius |
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NewEnglands_KyoSa
Pre-Black Belt

Joined: 14 Jan 2008
Posts: 907
Location: New England
Styles: Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do , Chinese Kempo
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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For sparring in class it is very casual and we wear no gear. No contact for under Black and light(stressed) contact for above black. one's supposed to bow in recognition after recieving a clearly well placed hit . we usually go for like two minute rounds and switch partners about 6-8 times. kicks above the waist, no open hands for under blacks, no spinning back fists for anyone. thats pretty much it though. in class, the rules are pretty much implied, but keep in mind this is the 'adult' class, so everyone here is supposed to be mature in age or high in rank. _________________ "Smile. Show everyone that today you're stronger than you were yesterday." |
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a_ninja
Orange Belt

Joined: 18 Dec 2006
Posts: 174
Location: Laurel, Mississippi
Styles: Green belt in shotokan karte, and know a little about alot of other styles, but not from schools such as kung fu, muay thai, tai kwon do, and weapons
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Well I take shotokan karate and We are not allowed to kick or punch anybody in the face, but we can kick and hit to the side of the head, and we cant target anything below the belt. _________________ the best fight is one that doesnt happen |
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kenpo4life
Orange Belt

Joined: 14 Oct 2002
Posts: 229
Location: oakland, ca
Styles: kenpo, judo, bjj, escrima
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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No pads, no gloves and daido juku rules apply. Basically the only thing we dont do is strikes the knees and the spine. No spiking on the head during takedowns.All other strikes, including the groin are fair game. All clinches and submissions are allowed _________________ If my survival means your total destruction, then so be it. |
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unknownstyle
Green Belt

Joined: 29 Aug 2005
Posts: 383
Location: Texas
Styles: Matsumura Seito Shorin Ryu along with Shorinji Ryu
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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depends on rank, here is a breakdown.
white and blue belts are allowed hard contact to the body. no head at all. shin blocks are usually toned down on white belts.
green belts are allowed hard contact to the body, medium contact to the head, light contact to the groin and we add sweeps at this point.
brown belts are allowed hard body and head contact, medium contact to face and groin. and we add hard leg kicks, takedowns and submission fighting.
at blackbelt hard contact applys to everything, with the exception of the joints and throat. we also focus alot on nerve strikes. at black belt level you also dont wear protective gear of any kind. and the only gear you wear at the other ranks is gloves _________________ " to learn how to fight without fighting, is like learning how to swim on sand."
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Zanshin
Member of the Month

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 401
Styles: Wado Ryu Karate, Daito Ryu Aiki-Jujutsu, Ono-Ha Itto-Ryu Kenjutsu
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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We have two types of rules / Kumite methods
1. WKF (World Karate Fed.) rules for tournaments that we enter.
2. Dojo Kumite which is "Jiyu" kumite or free/continuous fighting.
Both are great, but for me now, I am getting into the "Jiyu" stuff.
Its a bit like Randori in Aikido. _________________ "The difference between the possible and impossible is one's will"
"saya no uchi de katsu" - Victory in the scabbbard of the sword. (One must obtain victory while the sword is undrawn).
www.art-of-budo.com |
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mortalflesh
White Belt

Joined: 29 May 2008
Posts: 12
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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My club has what we call a "fight night", basically for green belts and up with medium to full contact depending on who's sparing and their comfort level. I tend to disagree on the Green belt and up thing but the argument is that the lower belts don't know enough not to get themselves or someone else hurt...makes sense I guess.
In the very first club I was in many moons ago, it was light contact for lower belt, medium contact for middle levels (green, blue) and heavy contact for higher belts...worked great and was lots of fun. |
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Ozpunker
White Belt

Joined: 01 Jun 2008
Posts: 18
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Styles: Kaizen Ryu, Mauy Thai
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:49 am Post subject: |
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In sparring it's pretty much limited contact. You don't get hurt too bad but you sure as hell know that you have been hit!! We usually wear foot/shin guards, boxing gloves, groin protectors and mouthguards. Some people opt for the full face helmets. Kicks and punches allowed everywhere. No knees or elbows allowed (Although when I spar with the guy that used to teach me Mauy Thai, we usually throw in a few softs knees)
When it comes to point sparring, We follow ISKA rules. |
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