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MuayTB1
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2001 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A While ago, I went to a shoulin. It is a Temple with monks and every thing. And students from all over the world go there but mosty chinese. I had to live there for 2 days. Here is what we did.

Wake up at 6 am.--- Low horse stance for 1 hour, no getting up at all. Slow breathing tec. Like the diver, it helps the lungs. Man was My leg tried, I only stood for 10 mins. Give it a try, low horse stance for 10 mins.
6:00--- Medatite
7 am--- Run 2 miles
8 am --- Punch, Kick, Block, Doge
12 --- eat
12:30--- rest ( finally )
2:00--- Hard body ( Makeing body hard by beating on it )
3:00 --- foot work
5:00 eat--
5: 30 rest
7:00 weapons---
10:00 sleep

Holly [word edited out]. I can't last at all and In My school I am the best of the best.
All day is training. The kid there are tough but they are tough Zen to keep them not voilent.

I am so glade that I will go back next year
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Iron Arahat
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2001 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who was running the classes at this school? Just curious as we have close ties to Shaolin.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2001 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was last year. The teacher was a old monk and his student tought us and somtimes he will to but mostly he tought Us about inner energy and the yound people told us about outter energy.

I don't really know how to put their names in english and For two days, I am not supose to ask for there frist name, it is not polite.

I call them sifu and Lou Si.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2001 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just curious, as many of the monks do teach at schools surrounding the temple.

I was lucky enough to have Shi De Qian and Shi Xing Qian visit us in Canada. The skills of these guy are amazing.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2001 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They seem so pure and they do not eat meat or have sex. ( I don't know about the the young monks thou, now a days they are crazy ) The old monk do not drink beer of what ever, do not smoke.

But, he can kill easly. Damn, I admire him but I have to have a hard drink somthing, so what if i'm under age. A party with grils but mentaly, I want to train like him.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2001 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2001-08-14 11:12, MuayTB1 wrote:
A While ago, I went to a shoulin. It is a Temple with monks and every thing. And students from all over the world go there but mosty chinese. I had to live there for 2 days. Here is what we did.

Wake up at 6 am.--- Low horse stance for 1 hour, no getting up at all. Slow breathing tec. Like the diver, it helps the lungs. Man was My leg tried, I only stood for 10 mins. Give it a try, low horse stance for 10 mins.
6:00--- Medatite
7 am--- Run 2 miles
8 am --- Punch, Kick, Block, Doge
12 --- eat
12:30--- rest ( finally )
2:00--- Hard body ( Makeing body hard by beating on it )
3:00 --- foot work
5:00 eat--
5: 30 rest
7:00 weapons---
10:00 sleep

Holly [word edited out]. I can't last at all and In My school I am the best of the best.
All day is training. The kid there are tough but they are tough Zen to keep them not voilent.

I am so glade that I will go back next year



This doesn't sound like any specific training in the Shaolin styles I am aware of. I said it in another post, and I'll say it again here -- if you are in any training and the "sifu" or anyone else tells you to stand in Ma Bu (The horse stance) for over 10 minutes, you have a school that doesn't know what they are doing and you are going to get injured. Standing in Ma Bu for over 10 minutes at a time will do serious damage to your knees. To me, this school you went to, or temple, or whatever, didn't appear to offer anything in the way of what would sound familiar to many people that have done just that.

I'm a little confused about some of your other posts on these forums, where you've studied, attended, trained in or witnessed these various aspects of Shaolin Kung Fu styles and are impressed by them, but you train in MT? Anyway, if you are serious about studying some Shaolin styles, or maybe some internal styles, let me know where you are and I'll see if I can suggest someone near.
I'm not saying the above paragraphs to mock you or anything at all, it just didn't sound like anything special, and only sounded like another school you pay to visit (in the US, or China) and they just take your money and screw with you and make you do ridiculous physical training that will make you want to leave and think it's such hard work that you won't question the quality of the training. Therefore, this is my sincere effort to offer some suggestions, depending on where you are located, of some different places you can truly train with some qualified instructors that won't just end up harming your body and wasting your time.

There are many styles such as the Shaolin styles, as well as some internal Kung Fu styles that are very fun, effective and real and it's something to definitely look into. However, a good sign they aren't real or qualified, is when they don't understand things, or are just trying to work people so hard that they don't question the quality of the school or instructor -- and a big warning sign, is when they start in with all that rigid, outrageous body conditioning * and demand people do things to the point where it will only cause harm.

Qualified instructors will understand this and not require people stand in such a position for such a duration, because they know it can (and will) do damage to you. This is a fact, so I hope that explains why I'm responding in the manner I am now and it's nothing personal. It's just hard for me to believe, given the above information in whole, that this "temple" was for anything other than to try and impress people enough to take their money -- if it required any. If it didn't, then I really have to wonder.... Anyway, on a side note, definitely, drugs, alcohol and smoking are something no one in their right mind would want to do. There's no fun in poisoning your body (and that's literally what drinking and drugs do to give you that high), even if it seems to make you feel good. As for sex, any school that discourages it, is not for me. Heh, just kidding, sex is fine, as long as you don't do it before training... you have to have a certain interval between any type physical activity after sex.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2001 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beating your body to make it tougher.. LOL. That's funny. Do you run full speed into walls or what? This Shaolin place seems like it came right out of a Kung-Fu movie. You're "punch,kick, dodge and block" routine doesn't involve footwork, or your footwork routine is just isolating the footwork?

1 hour to run 2 miles sounds like a very long time to run 2 miles.. maybe you should revise your training day to be a little more specific to what you actually did.

What I'm most interested in is this "making the body tougher by beating on it".

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2001 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I never said I studied in Shoulin, I been there fro 2 days just to see what it is like.
Don't get me wrong people, I don't lie.

Don't ask me to much, I mostly watched And that is what a student told me becasue I have to leave between 2 pm to 6 pm. I heard about it so my uncle told the teacher for me to stay a bit to watch.

Also to clear things up, I never said I trained in MT, I said that where I live, A MT school is very far and I only study from books and somtimes go visit a mt school. I train in teakwondo now.

And no, they didn't take my money and scew me because It is free. I go my uncle's to eat, and I sleep in the kempo. The catch is that I have to study buda while I am there.

Please people, if you don't belive me, just travel to a real school and see for your self. We are all grown ups here so I think that we have the money to travel. Go to train to prove That i am worng.


This is my point, "Go see for you self to visit or I can never expline"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2001 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You misunderstood. I do train in these styles. This is not what happens or what they are about. I'm not sure I understood your first post, let alone this newest one. I wasn't saying you were lying, just that if that was what happened, you need to find a real school -- I tell you this as someone that has really studied this and done it. So then, I guess it would come down to if you believe me, but I invite you to research it and check into what I said, as this is not correct training and you will get injured.

You can ask a qualified person to verify what I've told you. I can also suggest a lot of books and videos by a renown master that will verify this as well, if you would like. Nonetheless, if you would provide me with your location, I can suggest the nearest school I know of - that is, if you're interested. As for the MT training, I guess I misunderstood. However, I'm still wondering why you desire to train in it, after witnessing all these other styles you were impressed by. Anyway, for the sake of keeping this on topic, I'll end it there. Good luck.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2001 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alot of art I love but I just love to fight. The ring is the only legal one.
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