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Coonaxus
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Anyone have any information about these? I only have a brief knowledge of them.
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Brown Belt
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Location: Birmingham, England
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| i apologise if this is incorrect but is Hung-Gar the same as Ho-Gar ???? if so i will be able to list the forms and information you require |
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Blade13
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Joined: 23 Aug 2001
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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I remember seeing an extensive artice on the animals of Hung Gar in an issue of Inside Kung Fu magazine I have around here somewhere. Im gonna try to find it. I think it has a lot of info that you would be interested in.
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Drunken Monkey
Black Belt
Joined: 10 Apr 2002
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Location: bar italia
Styles: white chocolate profiteroles and natas....
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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not really sure you're asking for but here goes,
five elements referes to
fire, wood, water, earth, metal
each sitting next to its compliment and opposite its opponent. each element also relates to certain meridians. i don't actually know much about this but this is what i remember.
as for five animals, there's a set in hung ger called the five animals which may or may not be similar to the shaolin five animals (which is also in choy li fat).
snake: like the dragon in it's appearance but it's the spring like nature of its energy that is emphasised. position of arms. speed and accuracy.
tiger: clawing and tearing. really rooted movements. stance.
crane: strikes at points (like the snake) but is more calm.
leopard: pure strength. the motions based on panther are about pure physical speed and strength.
dragon: like the wind, typified by wave like motions, grabs and diffusion. control. hip.
it is also important that the five animals form is based on the ESSENCE of the animals and sometimes bear no real relation of the animal.
the name dates back to when martial arts movements had poetic names such as gold dragon rises from ocean (gum long chut hoi or something like that). |
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Coonaxus
White Belt
Joined: 08 Apr 2002
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Location: NYC
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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from the ground up, thanks for the useful info it helped a lot. And, ad, I'm not really sure if Gung-Ga is the same as Ho-Gar, but it's quite common with chinese to english translations of martial arts-related things to be that way, it could be the same thing. Like Kung Fu and Gung Fu.
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Drunken Monkey
Black Belt
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 7:35 am Post subject: |
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the "gar" bit just means family
hung gar is hung family (from some guy called hung hei gung i think)
lau gar would be lau family
and so on
to my knowledge there were five big families of kung fu
hung, lau, choy, li (or lee), mok
but there were/are many others.
and then some styles are refered to by their own merit such as wing chun, bak mei, eagle claw, tong long etc.
it is also interesting to note that different families sometimes have thier own versions of a style (where familiy history and teaching is concerned) such as in tai-chi. |
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Coonaxus
White Belt
Joined: 08 Apr 2002
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Location: NYC
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 9:25 am Post subject: |
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That's Hung Hei Guen. The lineage of my school is pretty awesome. It's like this:
Shaolin Temple
Gee Sim
Hung Hei Guen
Luk Ah Choy
Wong Kay Ying
Wong Fei Hung
Tang Fong
Yuen Ling
Yee Chi Wai (A.K.A. Frank Yee)
Matthew Blazon Yee (My Sifu)
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Joined: 22 Nov 2001
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Location: Birmingham, England
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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i wondered if you coonaxus has ever heard of the following forms, or if you anyobody has
Kay Bau Sofa
Charp Choi
Farqen Yu
Fighting set 1 and 2 and 3
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Drunken Monkey
Black Belt
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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if you dig deep enough, you'll eventually find one of the five from shaolin as the starting point for most chinese martial arts.
gee sim is where wing chun got it's pole form. |
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Lau gar
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Joined: 27 Apr 2002
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| Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 9:32 am Post subject: |
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in lau gar kung fu we have the five animals 
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