A Principle of Fighting

jeffrogers · Blue Belt

Yes very well written and enligthening article. -Jeff

White Warlock · Black Belt

Nice article. Wanted to add a comment.

I believe i understand the misunderstanding occurring here. Regardless of whatever physical, mental, external or internal abilities... we are all still human. That was the foundation behind Martial Artist's post. We are all bound by the same limitations. Even if we decide to push it to the limit of those limitations, the limitations nonetheless do exist and it is these limitations... this 'mortality' that is presented as the evenrod of our need to maintain respect to all persons, regardless of physical, mental, intellectual, or spiritual heights, that should govern our every condition and decision... to whatever extreme.

In the end, death is death and it does not play favorites.

edit: Granted, not everyone realizes what their limitations are, and many 'assume' their limitations are far lower than they truly are.
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karateguy24 · White Belt

Interesting Article. I don't agree with it though. Not every Piece of it I am saying I don't agrew with. But alot of it I don't. For example each style has its own ways and pattersn of doing those things. Unless you work outside your pretty much are goign to defend your self based off of adrinline fear or anger and what ever programing you gave your body by repition. So saying you can be prepared for what ever the person does is kind of silly.

You can prepare for all you want. The reality is we only better are chances of doing better we don't garentee we will.

This is why I believe in Cross training. But that is my opinion.

Also I do agree with that we are all human and in some little way or big way after an ecounter of human engagment of some sort we aren't the same we learn something or something happens to us and we change.

Port of that aritcle remind me of the philisophy bruce lee wrote in his books. but that was just eastern Philosophy reworded and having it fit or tie in with the martial arts.

still none the less the well writen article I just don't neccearily agree with it.

"Side Note: The title of the article does state A PRINCIPLE. This article was never intended to cover every aspect of fighting, just a single concept deemed important by the author."

so what is the principle you were trying to get across exactly? No fear?

That isn't going to happen. Me when I get into a physical altercation I do have fear, or anxiety. Its just how you deal with those emtotions and go on.

But thats my opinion take it for what ever its worth.

White Warlock · Black Belt

Umm... may i suggest rereading that article, as it seems you completely misunderstood just about every part of it.
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40 cent · Yellow Belt

i think it was an awesome article, beauty in its simplicity.

killer miller, i think the purpose of the article was not to suggest an untrained person can defeat a trained one, moreso to demonstarte that we ALL have the same weaknesses no matter how much we train, in the end, we are all human and none of us are immortal. No amount of practice will make us immortal, and although we seek it, we can never reach perfection, not even with 'perfect practice.' In the end, the extraordinary MA's you've seen are human, and have trained in a humanly manner.

Thanks for the article (y)

Sunrunner · Yellow Belt

It was a beautiful article. I think that this article speaks a lot to the art of compassion as well as to the art of fighting. Thanks for the article, I found it to be very thought provoking.
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EvilTed · Orange Belt

Ahhh soooo Grasshopper....

Seriously, this reads like something from the script of "Kung Fu"

I don't know how many "real" fights you've been in, but every one I've been in, the humanity of the opponent did not even cross my mind.

It's always down to "fight as if your life depended on it and do unto others as they would do to you. Just do it first !"

ET

Martial_Artist · Pre-Black Belt

Actually, in every fight I have been the 'humanity'of my opponent has always been on my mind. If I hit him he will feel pain because he is only human. If I break his nose it will hurt. If I break a wrist he won't be able to use it. If I cut him he will bleed. His humanity is always a prominent factor in every fight.

Cut him, he'll bleed.
Hit him, he'll feel pain.
Break him, he'll feel disability.
Kill him, he'll die.

That is the humanity of a fighter.

The humanity of a martial artist is understanding this and using it. You will not kill everyone you fight. But that doesn't mean that person will not die if you do. Regardless if he studies jiu-jitsu, kenpo, karate, or any other martial art. Men bleed. Men hurt. Men die. It doesn't change with style. And THAT is the principle of fighting spoken of in the article.

Do with it what you will.
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longarm25 · Blue Belt

nice post
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