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TKD_McGee
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pilot can not have a gun to defend the plane against Terrorists? Then why do we trust them with over 100 lives every time they go up into flight.
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Kickbutt
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because they're trained as PILOTS. They aren't police officers and have no training as such - you may as well give the gun to a passenger then.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes thats right kickbutt and also that they are train to fly the plane safly and took a long time to get a flying liscenes and they must know lots of things people don`t know!!
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Kato
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree with Kickbutt. Pilots should leave hijackers to trained law enforcement officers, who do this as a full time job. The placement of well trained airmarshels on air craft is preferable to arming pilots.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well said kato!!
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TKD_McGee
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, of course you will say that because you are a soft skulled liberal. Cant we just give the Terrorist a hug? If you didnt know, the Constitution says that you have to Right to Bear arms. It dosent matter if he is a Pilot or not. Crimes are easily stopped with fire arms. Would you rather have another Terrorist Incident? Or would you rather be prepaired by having a Pilot with a fire arm. These people are trusted to fly many hours a week, so they should be trusted to protect the people on their plane. They are "Responsible" for the lives that go one that plane each day.

[ This Message was edited by: TKD_McGee on 2001-10-18 20:45 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then again, If the Pilot goes crazy and see's Gremlins on the wingtips, you better watch out!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2001 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I'm all for a good debate TKD, however please try to remain respectful of others in your response. I won't (or rather can't) respond to you in this same tone, as I'm a moderator here, so I'm leaving the thread alone. Your opinion is yours and I'll respect that...but I won't call you a derogatory name because I don't agree with it.
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Kato
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2001 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tsk tsk tsk how could I have been so sorely misunderstood. TKD_McGee you seem to be under the impression that I'm advocating peace and negotiation with potential hijackers, I'm not. All I'm saying is that if it comes to a shoot out on an aircraft I would rather have a trained air marshal, with law enforcement experience, protecting me then a pilot with a gun. Pilots are trained to fly aircraft and they do that very well but THEY ARE NOT COPS and they should not try to be. Anyway I go through my position on this topic in detail in a post I made on page one of this thread, so I will not bother to rehash the whole thing here. Suffice it to say I think there are better ways to handle this then giving pilots guns.

[ This Message was edited by: Kato on 2001-10-20 20:44 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2001 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2001-10-18 20:35, TKD_McGee wrote:
Well, of course you will say that because you are a soft skulled liberal. Cant we just give the Terrorist a hug? If you didnt know, the Constitution says that you have to Right to Bear arms. It dosent matter if he is a Pilot or not. Crimes are easily stopped with fire arms. Would you rather have another Terrorist Incident? Or would you rather be prepaired by having a Pilot with a fire arm. These people are trusted to fly many hours a week, so they should be trusted to protect the people on their plane. They are "Responsible" for the lives that go one that plane each day.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: TKD_McGee on 2001-10-18 20:45 ]</font>


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