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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16386
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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All in all, safety first, and in that, the fighter in black = DISQUALIFY IMMEDIATELY!! I'd even consider probation for a short time, 3 months, without any ambiguity!! Kind of harsh? When weighed against safety and the injury the one fighter endured...huh...NO...not harsh at all!
_________________ **Proof is on the floor!!! |
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Spartacus Maximus
Black Belt
Joined: 01 Jun 2014
Posts: 1901
Styles: Shorin ryu
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Nothing less than complete disqualification and banishment from further participation is what this sort of unsportsmanlike, disloyal and utterly despicable act deserves. This is a competition, a sports bout, and not a warfight where the aim is to kill to be killed. Neither is it a fight for life and limb.
Sports athletes have the obligation and responsibility to control themselves, especially under stress with adrenalin. They must perform to the best of their ability and avoid this kind of dishonorable behaviours. Although in the video, it could be argued that it is not clear whether it was intentional. |
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Montana
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Posts: 878
Location: Formerly Kalispell, Montana, now Spokane, WA
Styles: Shorin Ryu Matsumura Kenpo & Kobudo
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Without having read that tournaments rule(s) concerning downed opponents, I can't reach an opinion. Having said that, and if I was the Arbitrator of that tournament, based on my experiences, I would've disqualified her for lack of control considering the venue.
If the rule had stated to follow through on a downed opponent, then I'd rule to instruct said downed opponent to defend herself much better than that...after all, you're a black belt, act like it. HOWEVER, if the downed opponent rule stated to follow through BUT WITH CONTROL, I'd still disqualify her because, imho, she lacked the necessary control for such a destructive kick...especially on a downed opponent.
And, no matter what the paramedics might have ruled, I wouldn't have allowed her to continue. Safety before anything!!
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AGREED! Did anybody besides me notice that the referee was wearing heels? HEELS??? How the heck is she supposed to move?
Part of ref's responsibilities is to QUICKLY get in between the fighters to breakup dangerous situations and to prevent injuries to the fighters.
Again..in HEELS???
Sorry, I watched that vid twice..IMHO that whole match was a joke, from the venue, the judging, the fat old men sitting around the ring bored out of their minds and not paying attention ... HEELS??? _________________ If you don't want to stand behind our troops, please..feel free to stand in front of them.
Student since January 1975---4th Dan, retired due to non-martial arts related injuries. |
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Bulltahr
Brown Belt
Joined: 08 Mar 2015
Posts: 727
Location: NEW ZEALAND
Styles: Shotokan, Seido Juku
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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It looks a bit like that "Best in the world" championship that basically is an "in-house" tournament, the one that popped up in another sub, the one where you had to buy all your sparring gear from them. Looks like it anyway..... _________________ "We don't have any money, so we will have to think" - Ernest Rutherford |
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MAfreak
Yellow Belt
Joined: 01 Feb 2016
Posts: 96
Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:23 am Post subject: |
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backyard tournament, i told you. |
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IcemanSK
Black Belt
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Posts: 1084
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Styles: Taekwondo Chung Do Kwan
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see the value in allowing an axe kick to a downed opponent. _________________ Being a good fighter is One thing. Being a good person is Everything. Kevin "Superkick" McClinton |
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mazzybear
Brown Belt
Joined: 30 Oct 2013
Posts: 675
Location: Scotland.
Styles: Wado Kai
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:56 am Post subject: |
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Montana wrote: |
sensei8 wrote: |
Without having read that tournaments rule(s) concerning downed opponents, I can't reach an opinion. Having said that, and if I was the Arbitrator of that tournament, based on my experiences, I would've disqualified her for lack of control considering the venue.
If the rule had stated to follow through on a downed opponent, then I'd rule to instruct said downed opponent to defend herself much better than that...after all, you're a black belt, act like it. HOWEVER, if the downed opponent rule stated to follow through BUT WITH CONTROL, I'd still disqualify her because, imho, she lacked the necessary control for such a destructive kick...especially on a downed opponent.
And, no matter what the paramedics might have ruled, I wouldn't have allowed her to continue. Safety before anything!!
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AGREED! Did anybody besides me notice that the referee was wearing heels? HEELS??? How the heck is she supposed to move?
Part of ref's responsibilities is to QUICKLY get in between the fighters to breakup dangerous situations and to prevent injuries to the fighters.
Again..in HEELS???
Sorry, I watched that vid twice..IMHO that whole match was a joke, from the venue, the judging, the fat old men sitting around the ring bored out of their minds and not paying attention ... HEELS??? |
Yes, I noticed the heels!! I had a chuckle to myself on that front. As to the axe kick, instant disqualification in my book. It was highly dangerous and irresponsible. Had she done it to the body I'd MAYBE think twice on it but, to the head is just plain wreckless.
Mo. _________________ Be water, my friend. |
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Alan Armstrong
Black Belt
Joined: 28 Feb 2016
Posts: 2468
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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The video in question has been KO for public viewing. Perhaps it was far too controversial! |
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