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Joecooke007
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2002 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly knives? Are these actually a martial arts weapon?

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SaiFightsMS
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2002 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Joe they are. There are so many weapons used in martial arts it would be nearly impossible to learn proficiency with all of them.
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egarlock
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using the blade is only one aspect of the balisong. The closed weapon is also quite useful, like using a kubton.

Also, to have the knife in hand and flip it open for combat is pretty trivial. Fancy opening generally have real combat weaknesses or limited applicability. Once you have gotten familiar with the opening and closing, try doing so while doing your other training activities, like during forms practice, or shadow boxing. If you really want to try combat applications, replace the blade with a blunted alluminum dummy and spar with it (as always be extra careful with thrusts).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellant tips Egarlock. The more I learn about weapons the more weapons I see that have muti-use aspects. And the more addictive the dedication to weapons arts.
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YODA
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2002 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all

I teach Balisong to my Eskrima students, being a Filpino weapon it is part of our study.

We use it both open (then it's a knife lke any other) or closed as a "tabak maliit" or "pocket stick".

As far as openings go we have a basic criteria - no matter how you pick it up yopu must be able to open it quickly into both labgit (heaven) and lupa (earth) grip. Ater that anything else is just coordination training & FUN! (Fun's ok in martial arts -right?)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2002 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weaopons training fun? Heck yes if not would be knock ourselves out to continue learning and practicing.
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