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JazzKicker
Orange Belt
Joined: 07 Aug 2017
Posts: 174
Location: NJ
Styles: Hapkido, JKD, TSD
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:14 pm Post subject: Belt;How do you tie, and how long are the tails? |
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how do you wrap your belt? I know 2 ways: 1) put the middle of it at the center of your waist, wrap it around, tie a square knot. in the back it "crosses over". This was the "beginner" way I used for a long time. 2) Put one end (right side for me) in the small of your back, wrap to your left twice, bring out the first part of the wrap for the other tail to tie. This is neat and avoids the crossover in the back.
After it's tied, how much do you have dangling- 4", 8", down to your knees ? mine seem to have shrunk over the years.... |
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Lupin1
Black Belt
Joined: 15 Dec 2009
Posts: 1637
Location: Naples, FL
Styles: Isshinryu
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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We teach the kids the first way. Usually once they hit junior black belt I'll teach them the more advanced way. I don't hold the stationary end against the small of the back, though, I hold it against my stomach with enough hanging down to be the tail.
I just put on my belt and measured the "tails". They're almost exactly 12". |
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OneKickWonder
Purple Belt
Joined: 17 Feb 2018
Posts: 513
Styles: Tang soo do
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I do it the first way you described. That's how I learned when I was a kid. That's the only way I knew lol. I'll have to look out for the other way to see if anyone in our club does it. |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16420
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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The way you first describe; I've been doing that since day one back in 1964...that's how we were taught, and this is how I taught/teach it. My "tails" hang down to just under the hem of the gi jacket...mid-thigh.
_________________ **Proof is on the floor!!! |
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JR 137
Black Belt
Joined: 10 May 2015
Posts: 2442
Location: In the dojo
Styles: Seido Juku
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:01 am Post subject: |
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I tie mine the second way you described. I don’t do it for the aesthetic reasons of having it look like a single belt though; it just doesn’t get tight enough for me. When I tie it like that, it loosens up and moves around too much. It goes up, down, sideways, and comes untied. After trying it the second way you described, it stays put and tied. I guess there’s a little too much slack in the belt for me when I have it crossed in back.
There’s only one other person in my dojo who ties it like me. I saw him doing it a few times in the locker room and asked him why. A few weeks later I decided to try it, and I haven’t gone back to the other way.
The tails go about mid-thigh or so. I’m not fan of the tails being really long. Not that I’m the fashion police, but the WKF guys who wear their belts with the tails going past their knees drives me crazy. |
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singularity6
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 26 Jun 2017
Posts: 958
Location: Michigan
Styles: Jidokwan Taekwondo and Hapkido, Yoshokai Aikido, ZNIR Iaido, Kendo
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:13 am Post subject: |
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I use the second method. I prefer the tails to be about a foot long, but my current belt hangs down a bit further. It annoys me because it sometimes slaps me in the face when I do certain kicks. _________________ 5th Geup Jidokwan Tae Kwon Do/Hap Ki Do
(Never officially tested in aikido, iaido or kendo) |
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Nidan Melbourne
KF Sempai
Joined: 21 Aug 2013
Posts: 2357
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Styles: Goju-Ryu, BJJ, Balintawak Arnis
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:36 am Post subject: |
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We teach the first way to our students, as it is the easiest one to teach our students.
Our “advanced” way is similar to the way you said the 2nd option. But we start by placing one end on the left hip and then wrap around.
Once they get the second portion back, they adjust the belt so you can tie the respective knots. And the tails are of a similar length.
My belt ends up with around 30cm for each tail, which is enough to show the full embroidery and a bit extra. |
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LLLEARNER
Brown Belt
Joined: 10 Feb 2016
Posts: 687
Location: Central Maine
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:30 am Post subject: |
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I hold one end on my right side and then wrap around my back 2 times then tie. My ends end up mid thighish. I also like my belt tight. _________________ "Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know." ~ Lao-tzu, Tao Te Ching
"Walk a single path, becoming neither cocky with victory nor broken with defeat, without forgetting caution when all is quiet or becoming frightened when danger threatens." ~ Jigaro Kano |
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MatsuShinshii
Black Belt
Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Posts: 1423
Location: Kentucky
Styles: Machimura Suidi Rokudan, Ryukyu Kenpo, Kobudo, Judo
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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The first description. _________________ The person who succeeds is not the one who holds back, fearing failure, nor the one who never fails-but the one who moves on in spite of failure.
Charles R. Swindoll |
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Wastelander
KF Sensei
Joined: 18 Oct 2010
Posts: 2733
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Styles: Shorin-Ryu, Shuri-Ryu, Judo, KishimotoDi
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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We tie ours the first way you describe, and I like mine to be a bit longer than mid-thigh. Interestingly, although you're describing a specific process in your second method, you can get the same result by just feeding your belt together as you wrap from the front, which is how I was originally taught, and did for the first four years of my training.
Now, if you grapple a lot, you might start tying it the first way, but with a lock-down version of the knot. Comes in handy! _________________ Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf Karlsson
Shorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)
Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)
Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian Rivera
Illinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society |
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