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Mo_Tseu
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the major reason why there is belts is to make more money on our case.

The price to take courses is high enough,
in my region, it's around 800 $can to be in and 100$can for the belt exam.

It's #$^&*% insane, don't you guys and girls agree with me ??
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Withers M.A.A.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always paid $30 per test. That includes the test itself, the belt, and the certificate. I don't think its a scam. It gives p eople short term goals instead of just having one promotion in 4-6 years.

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Lau gar
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's good for us but i gotta admit it's where my school gats most of it's money

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ZeRo
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my belt tests aint to bad because im a mini person. 13 years old and i only have ot pay about £15 for my tests
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ckdstudent
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Joined: 09 May 2002
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Location: Surrey, England
Styles: Choi Kwang Do

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We only pay £20 a test until black belt. Then it gets expensive, mainly because when you get to black belt you'll pay whatever they ask. Of course, retests come free.

Personally I'm quite proud of having a first dan belt after ten years, and being only a year away from my second. It just indicates to me how far I've come since I started, plus it looks very nice what with the gold bar and my name embroidered upon it.

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Phantasmatic
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Joined: 21 Dec 2001
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mo Tseu, I think those people you are talking about are just getting ripped off!!

IMHO i think the only reason to have belts is to know where the students are at in his/her training so the sensei can tell faster.

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tessone
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Joined: 23 Apr 2002
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Location: Galesburg, IL

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2002 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see nothing wrong with belts, as long as people don't place too much emphasis on them. They provide short term goals while you're still in the process of learning the basics.

At our school, all color belt tests are less than $50. I think the prices might even be standard throughout KSW, but I'm not 100% sure.

Testing from 1st dan and up is a lot more expensive, but once you're a black belt, you're considered a senior student and the idea is you have an important role in building up the organization. That makes a lot of sense to me.


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Pacificshore
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Joined: 26 Mar 2002
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Location: West Coast
Styles: Chinese Kenpo/Kara-Ho Kempo

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2002 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't necessarily think so. I've seen places that charge a rising scale for belt test, but charge students a reasonable amount for monthly lessons. For example, $50-$60 a month for lessons, and then $25, $30, $35, $40, etc. per belt level.

Then there are those places that charge you plenty up front for a belt program, membership, and still a monthly fee, but then only charge a minimum amount for all belt testing, up until 1st degree black.

In the end it's about how you preceive your training to be and what you look to gain from it.
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Kung Fu grunger
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2002 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at my old club we didn't pay for the tests to move up a a belt, the club just uses the belt system as a tracking system to see how good you are

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Karateka
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2002 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sometimes found the prices were too high, and then I saw other clubs, and they were even more expensive. Usually, my belt tests cost about $20 a test. Then the black belt test comes from Japan so it is about $200 dollars. Plus we have monthly fees, association fees and style fees. It gets a little carried away. I always find the rewards to be greater than what I give, so it is, to me anyway, a good trade off.

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