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Nidan Melbourne
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:59 pm    Post subject: Best order for kata in state championships? Reply with quote

Hey all,


I am competing in a state tournament early next year and want your opinion on what order i should do my kata in.

the kata i will be doing is:

Seienchin (Shito-Ryu or Goju-Ryu version)
Saifa (Goju-Ryu)
Seipai (Goju-Ryu)
Kurarunfa (Goju-Ryu)
Gekesai Dai Ichi (Goju-Ryu)
Anan
Jion (Shotokan)
Kanku Dai (Shotokan)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say that your order is fine!! If you change the order, I'd leave Kanku Dai (Shotokan) at the end because it's solid enough to leave that nice lasting impression. However, you could do it first to leave that nice first impression. It's kind of like..."Follow this, if you dare" and that can disturb the following contestants with a..."I have to follow that?!...Mommy!!".

Are you sure that you're allowed to choose the said order? If so, then leave that first impression solid, with a solid middle impression, and then end with a lasting impression.

Solid order, I say, go for it!!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you discussed this with your Instructor. It is unlikely you will need 8 kata (which division are you in). 5 perhaps 6 is more likely. I would consider dropping Saifa and Gekkisai. They are a little too basic.
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Nidan Melbourne
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I technically need 7 as we have 65 competitors in the group.

I probably am going to drop Gekesai anyway.

And Sensei8 yes I am allowed to choose that order. We are permitted to choose any kata we want. and are still allowed to have some variation in the kata but obviously can't have a massive difference in it.

The only change in order i would make for myself is depending who i am up against also. As there are some extremely strong karateka competing so i might have to bump up some of my stronger kata to them.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I may have put two and two together and made 5. I presumed since you are in Melbourne and referred to a State tournament it would be Vic state champs on March 1st ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hows your Bassai Dai NM? It's a well known Kata and very impressive done well.
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Nidan Melbourne
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I probably had mislabelled it. it is more like a minor tournament.

Although i am going to be entering the state tournament in march with a couple of the kata that i mentioned before.

As i usually have a set of kata that i can pull out for any tournament.

Bassai Dai haven't learnt that one yet. As i don't do Shotokan so it is a bit hard to get time to train with people who do. As a friend of mine trains in the Karate Victora Squad who learns (obviously) learns kata from other styles so i've been learning them off him.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, there are many Kata and many versions of each. The trouble starts when a purist of one style meets another!!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is always going to be trouble. But i actually like learning kata from other styles also.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nidan Melbourne wrote:
I probably had mislabelled it. it is more like a minor tournament.

Although i am going to be entering the state tournament in march with a couple of the kata that i mentioned before.
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Sounds good. Hope it goes well. 65 competitors in one division is huge.
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