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Punchdrunk
Orange Belt
Joined: 19 Aug 2001
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Wise Kensai.
For two of the all time great striker beatdowns of grapplers -
checkout
Maurice Smith vs Marcos "Conan" Siveria
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Igor Vocanchyn vs Francisco Bueno
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Thai_Kick
Orange Belt
Joined: 19 Sep 2002
Posts: 207
Location: Ontario, Canada
Styles: Muay Thai, JKD and Kali
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Don't forget about these great striker vs grappler fights, with the striker puting the beatdown on the grappler...
- Murilo Rua (Muay Thai) vs Mario Sperry (BJJ)
- Vanderlei Silva (Muay Thai) vs Kazushi Sakuraba (Shoot Fighting)
- Bas Ruttan (Kyokushin/Muay Thai) vs Frank Shamrock (Shoot Fighting)
- Mirko Filipovic (Kickboxing) vs Kazushi Sakuraba (Shoot Fighting)
- Chuck Liddel (Kickboxing) vs Vitor Belfort (BJJ)
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Punchdrunk
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Joined: 19 Aug 2001
Posts: 191
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Strangely one of the most one sided striking knockouts came when Carlson Gracie Sr. protege Vitor Belfort brutally KO'd feared striker Vanderlei Silva in under a minute with a relentless flurry of punches at UFC's Ultimate Brazil.
I noticed the Sakuraba fights on your list Thai_Kick. I have to say he is one of my favorite fighters. It pains me that Pride keeps matching him up with one vicious fighter after another, usually at a substantial size disadvantage.  I hope he can survive for a little while longer. |
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superleeds
Blue Belt
Joined: 03 Sep 2002
Posts: 346
Location: Bergen norway
Styles: Chito-Ryu Karate-Do
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I think most of us on this forum have a bit of a biased paradigm towards the striking arts. I am not here to clean up, as I am an American Karate stylist and do not specialize in grappling, but I think it is best in the martial arts world to keep our minds open.
I rewound watched the interception phase over and over again. It is quite obvious that the Karate guy displayed no sense of aliveness in his positioning, his body posture, and his arm movements the entire time up to the time that BJJ dude thrusted him into the wall. It is my opinion that the Karate guy probably never watched UFC, or even WWF (sorry, now it's E), and was also a bit confident in something he shouldn't be confident about. I am no black belt yet, but something has to be said understanding your opponent, and the strenghts and weaknesses of yourself (kinda like what guarddog was implying). I have experimented with grappling, and belive me, there can be a time for it. It might even be a good idea for me to cross train when I grab the time (pun intended). |
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Phrost
White Belt
Joined: 30 Jun 2002
Posts: 7
Location: www.McDojo.com
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I agree diamond. The mcdojo.com people are pretty annoying, I dont go there all that often.
I would like to know if there is a website that has lots of vs vid clips.
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Ummm....
How exactly are we annoying you?
We post videos that people submit to us. If you have a video of a Karate stylist whooping up on a BJJ stylist, let us know and we'll post it as well.
Phrost, Lead Administrator
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Kensai
Black Belt
Joined: 05 Jul 2002
Posts: 1415
Location: Britain
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Sorry Phrost, but when I read the threads from your members, I can only be left with an impassable rage! They are appear to have a very very very closed minded attitude to all the traditional stylee, especially the Wudang Kung Fu.
Just IMHO ofcourse.
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Radok
Brown Belt
Joined: 23 Apr 2002
Posts: 601
Location: Florida
Styles: Okinawan Shorin-ryu Karate-do
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I used to post at adcombat, but then I found this sight. 
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Severe Matburn
Yellow Belt
Joined: 20 Dec 2002
Posts: 78
Styles: Team Snake Pit Submission Fighting (grappling and striking)
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2 of the styles I do r sambo(nearly the same as bjj) and karate(not shotokan) and that was juss sad. Fer the bjj guy, dat was the werst ground and pound i've ever seen...and the karate guy....wat the HELL was he doing...how dumb can he be...looked fixed to me...
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m002
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Joined: 09 Jan 2003
Posts: 20
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| The ground fighters wasn't a professional, and he could almost definitely do the same to the world's best Shotokan Karate fighters, this i sjust an example of one particular case. Had it been Kyokushin karate, then the BJJ guy would've had less of a chnce, but would still won I think - Kyokushin guy would be takendown too quickly. |
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