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Stold
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Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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Thats not the point TJS, I asked how many fights did he win?
Bruce did train submissions. Hell, he even demonstrated it in some of his movies. You guys act like the gracies invented grappling. Almost every country has some indigenous form of wrestling. |
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Karateka_latino
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2001
Posts: 1299
Location: Panama city, Panama
Styles: Goju-Ryu Karate do; Kung Fu.
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I'd have to disagree,his weight would have nothing to do with UFC after all Royce Gracie wasn't exactly that big,infact he was scrawny himself and beat every guy bigger then him in the ring but one I believe.
Royce Gracie is bigger than Bruce Lee and even him had problems to defeat bigger guys like Kimo and Dan Severn.
I think Bruce Lee would have lost because he didn't have close to even half the skills these UFC guys have.
If he was going to compete, I guess he'll train on the necesary techniques for that kind of competition. Remember he was already training in Boxing and Wrestling. Just watch his movies and you'll notice he was using less and less traditional kung fu techniques on them.
Anyway, He wouldn't compete, by the time UFC started Bruce Lee were going to be like 60 years old.
Despite what we have seen of him in movies and what we've heard of him,when it comes down to it Bruce Lee was just an actor who happened to know martial arts.I really doubt he was as good as we have all been made to believe.
Bruce Lee as far as I am concerned was the best martial arts actor,but he was definitely no God and no real great martial artist.
He was a martial artist. If you read his books and bio's, He didn't trained M.A. for the movies but for street fights. He used to be a street fighter in his teens back in Hong Kong. I cannot say he was the BEST M.A. EVER on the planet, of course he wasn't and yes, there might be a lot of hype about his M.A. skills but he was a martial artist. |
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shotokanwarrior
Green Belt
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 363
Location: calif
Styles: Self Defense
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I think the grappler you are talking about is gene lebell. as far as the first ufc's grappling was not new, the people fighting just did not know what they were doing ( execpt for ken). Bruce lee trained for the street and not for compitition. I do not think that he would have done very well
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wrestlingkaratechamp
Brown Belt
Joined: 22 Mar 2003
Posts: 663
Location: Brooklyn
Styles: Brown belt shotkan karate/black belt 1st dan BJJ(8 years) high school wrestling champion
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Bruce lee would be better off fighting Jet li or something. |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Thats not the point TJS, I asked how many fights did he win?
Bruce did train submissions. Hell, he even demonstrated it in some of his movies. You guys act like the gracies invented grappling. Almost every country has some indigenous form of wrestling. |
I know your point and my point was that he got submitted by a Man that was Choked out By Royce in 40 seconds.
Yes Bas some fights before he started training in grappling..but he didint fight many world class opponets at that point and once he did learn those skills is when he became the fighter he is today. |
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alanseijas
Orange Belt
Joined: 20 Aug 2003
Posts: 125
Styles: Isshinryu, Shorinryu, Fut Sao
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Wouldn't it be great to see? I don't think Bruce would ever get in a ring, though. He didn't like gloves, either. He never fought in martial arts tournaments; he didn't believe one should fight simply for the sake of a trophy.
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sano
Red Belt
Joined: 19 Jul 2003
Posts: 753
Styles: shidokan karate
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but if he does the one inch punch it would be all over. you should of said chuck norris because he was kickboxing and karate champion.
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wrestlingkaratechamp
Brown Belt
Joined: 22 Mar 2003
Posts: 663
Location: Brooklyn
Styles: Brown belt shotkan karate/black belt 1st dan BJJ(8 years) high school wrestling champion
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| Norris is getting old isn't he? My friend told me he was almost 70 |
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battousai16
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Joined: 24 May 2003
Posts: 2069
Location: Wisconsin
Styles: Hwa Rang Do, Omulu Capoeira
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www.imdb.com says that he was born on march 10, 1940. geez...
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sano
Red Belt
Joined: 19 Jul 2003
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Styles: shidokan karate
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Yeah sixty three but i ment to say him in his hey day. but hey even now he would kill the ufc he has the texas rangers to back him up. and also on one of his shows frank shamrock was on there and i think chuck norris beat the crap out of frank.
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