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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:13 pm    Post subject: Cauliflower Ears Reply with quote

Dealing with Cauliflower ears.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kehdzOWq2J8

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For all of the years that I've been on the floor, I've been fortunate enough to have avoided that side of grappling, and yes, Shindokan does a lot of grappling.



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't really get it from training as much as you get it because you never stop training to let it heal....if that makes any sense
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you took off the belts, and the gi's, and asked me to pick out the most skilled grapplers from a lineup of random people, one of the things I would look for is at least a bit of ear damage. Maybe not a huge amount, but if you do this long enough, and intensively enough, you are gonna get some. Hopefully you learn after a bit ways to reduce it, but especially in the beginning, it's like getting scars on your knuckles from the makiwara, it's just one of those things that happens.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly enough, in my 10+ years of competitive wrestling and several years coaching on the mat, I never got it nor did anyone I practiced with. We all wore wrestling head gear throughout practice, except conditioning and warmup, so Iím attributing it to a lack of ear protection.

Wrestling headgear is designed to protect the ears, not the head.

Skin conditions such as ringworm are another matter though. I never got any, but Iím one of the very few.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cauliflower ears and ringworm? You guys are making a strong argument for the striking arts.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JR 137 wrote:
Interestingly enough, in my 10+ years of competitive wrestling and several years coaching on the mat, I never got it nor did anyone I practiced with. We all wore wrestling head gear throughout practice, except conditioning and warmup, so Iím attributing it to a lack of ear protection.

Wrestling headgear is designed to protect the ears, not the head.

Skin conditions such as ringworm are another matter though. I never got any, but Iím one of the very few.


I've met some college wrestlers with biscuit ear, but I think by and large its starting to go by the wayside, as headgear is required for wrestling in most areas now, at least at the kid level.

I did take my boy to a tourney in Nebraska, though, and some of the age groups weren't required to wear headgear. For the most part, though, they did, which I think speaks to the awareness that's been put out there about it.

That's on the wrestling side of it. I'm not sure how prone BJJ grapplers are to getting it, if they are at the same percentage as wrestlers.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MatsuShinshii wrote:
Cauliflower ears and ringworm? You guys are making a strong argument for the striking arts.


I worked the NCAA Div I tournament the year Cael Sanderson made history by being the only wrestler to go all 4 years without a single loss and winning a national championship every year. (2002?)

Iím permanently scared by what I saw at weigh-ins - a team of dematologists checking every square inch of each wrestlerís skin like a prison intake. They were all equipped with magnifying glasses and flashlights. Herpes was an instant disqualifier. Ringworm was so mild compared to everything else. For a while, it was thought that skin conditions would kill the sport.

Some things, you just canít unsee. Thanks for the reminder. And I was an intern, so I didnít get paid.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bushido_man96 wrote:
JR 137 wrote:
Interestingly enough, in my 10+ years of competitive wrestling and several years coaching on the mat, I never got it nor did anyone I practiced with. We all wore wrestling head gear throughout practice, except conditioning and warmup, so Iím attributing it to a lack of ear protection.

Wrestling headgear is designed to protect the ears, not the head.

Skin conditions such as ringworm are another matter though. I never got any, but Iím one of the very few.


I've met some college wrestlers with biscuit ear, but I think by and large its starting to go by the wayside, as headgear is required for wrestling in most areas now, at least at the kid level.

BJJers and Judoka seem to have a strong dislike for headgear.

I did take my boy to a tourney in Nebraska, though, and some of the age groups weren't required to wear headgear. For the most part, though, they did, which I think speaks to the awareness that's been put out there about it.

That's on the wrestling side of it. I'm not sure how prone BJJ grapplers are to getting it, if they are at the same percentage as wrestlers.


As long as they wear it and keep it somewhat clean, headgear works. Itís mainly caused by rubbing against the mat and each other. I think itís fungal too, but donít hold me to that. Possibly bacterial.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ringworm is the same exact strain as is athletes foot just merely somewhere else on the body. This explains why itís so prevalent. You could keep your mats and equipment clean as possible yet someone with poor hygiene trains and theyíve got some funk on their foot- you could get ringworm.

Impetigo is s little more aggressive but also much rarer.

Herpes.... god thatís awful.

Most bjj competitions do not check for skin conditions despite claims they do or will....
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