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thaiboxerken
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care where a person came from, or their training. I'll start them from "white belt" until I see that they are above that level, then I'll move them up to a level (belt) that is more suitable. I'll get "black belts" from other systems that will turn out to be totally ignorant in training. You never know what McDojo a person came from.

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Joined: 22 Jun 2001
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Location: North Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were teaching a class, and the new student was from another style, I would let them try it out for a while. After that, if they decide to stay, I would see for a time if they deserved, say a black belt. I would then decide with any other teachers whether or not they should be considered for their promotion. That is how my Sensei does it, and it works pretty well.

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Valn
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Joined: 23 Aug 2001
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Location: Tampa, FL

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually today I have talked with students that know about the shotokan school that I have started. Apparently, when the test come, if I can demonstrate a lot of skills I may by pass the yellow belt and move on to orange. Now, I know this isn't a major move forward, but now I have a reason to train hard regardless if I fail because I will give my best.
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iamrushman
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for me it's about knowledge and achievement not the belt..if i must be a white belt so be it, but my past knowledge and achievements stay with me and belong to no one but myself.

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thaiboxerken
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Joined: 21 Jun 2001
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guru Inosanto has put on the white-belt over and over again in more than 50 martial arts. I think it's great to put the white-belt on in other martial arts and learn from the beginning. Even a different school in the same system will teach or emphasize different techniques and concepts. Nothing wrong with being a white-belt again, you'll just be a white-belt that really kicks butt.


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Valn
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Joined: 23 Aug 2001
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2001 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I guess you're right thaiboxerken. I will be a white that kick *.
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SaiFightsMS
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Joined: 28 Oct 2001
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Location: Ohio
Styles: Shotokan, Shorin Ryu, Shi-to Ryu

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2001 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes starting on a new style is hard when you can't keep the old rank.

I have this strange idea that as part of mental training the humility of starting over as a white belt has some sort of value.

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Tobias_Reece
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Joined: 26 May 2001
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Location: Leeds, England
Styles: Matayoshi Okinawawn Kobudo, Shotokan Karate

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2001 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always been a firm believer that if you start a new style of a martial art, then you start back at white belt.

I hold a Nidan in Shotokan Karate, but if I started Goju-ryu, I would expect to start as a white belt again

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2001 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go and wear a white belt just out of respect to the Sensei, then I would wait and let him let me know if I should wear my other colour belt!

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bagpuss
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Joined: 28 Sep 2001
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Location: United Kingdom Leeds West Yorkshire
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2001 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

new style of karate, then you must start as a white belt.
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