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stonecrusher69
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Joined: 23 Apr 2002
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Location: New Jersey
Styles: MCM WING CHUN
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:33 pm Post subject: Chi Sao with sifu |
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Here is a rare video of me and my teacher practice some light chi sao when I went to visit him. This videos is about 5 years ago. It was never ment to be release to the public but it's my way of sharing and connecting the art from student to teacher..
https://youtu.be/38qT9KgwWuk _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/sifumcilwrath
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Alan Armstrong
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for sharing! |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
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Posts: 16386
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed; thank you for sharing. Your Sifu would win a bet in a game of "Touch me if you can". And the thing I saw was his flow, and no matter what you did to reach him, you're attempts were thwarted, even if it was at the last second; in short, he was playing with you like a cat would play with a mouse....right before the cat eat the mouse.
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stonecrusher69
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Location: New Jersey
Styles: MCM WING CHUN
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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sensei8 wrote: |
Indeed; thank you for sharing. Your Sifu would win a bet in a game of "Touch me if you can". And the thing I saw was his flow, and no matter what you did to reach him, you're attempts were thwarted, even if it was at the last second; in short, he was playing with you like a cat would play with a mouse....right before the cat eat the mouse.
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yes, my sifu is very good at chi sao..Glad everyone liked it.I have very like stuff like this with my teacher as he did not like to be filmed that much.I just glad I have at least this much.. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/sifumcilwrath
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30167
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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stonecrusher69
Red Belt
Joined: 23 Apr 2002
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Location: New Jersey
Styles: MCM WING CHUN
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:06 am Post subject: |
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bushido_man96 wrote: |
Very cool. Really smooth and flowing. |
Thank you bushido man96.. yeah that is what we are trying to do a flow without thinking... _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/sifumcilwrath
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Alan Armstrong
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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The Chi Sao in the video looked more like Yiquan, than Wing Chun; is this because Fut Sao Wing Chun is more concerned with the internal aspects or perhaps a White Crane connection?
The sticky hands in Wing Chun can cross but not in Yiquan as they consider this to be very dangerous.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiquan |
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stonecrusher69
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Alan Armstrong"]The Chi Sao in the video looked more like Yiquan, than Wing Chun; is this because Fut Sao Wing Chun is more concerned with the internal aspects or perhaps a White Crane connection?
The sticky hands in Wing Chun can cross but not in Yiquan as they consider this to be very dangerous.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiquan[/quote
Fut Sao is a softer version then the Ip Man Chi Sao platform. I have studied both for a long time so mine is in between whereas my sifu is more Fut Sao..He crosses his hands a for a few reasons. One is to let you take advantage of that situation because its not about him beating you he wants to see you get better. The other reason has to do with structure reinforcement. When two hands touch that creates a stronger structure. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/sifumcilwrath
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Alan Armstrong
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks stonecrusher69.
What I understand, is that the Fut Sao is an earlier Wing Chun system, which is more softer and internal (pacifist based or Buddha influenced) than the rest that practice Chi Sao?
(As Sifu R. Williams has been highly criticized for his lack of sensitivity)
(As Ip Man, didn't give his students any control over the center line when doing Chi Sao)
This is now considered to not be used while practicing Chi Sao, as both practioners should benefit from this exercise, or the more experienced giving some slack for the inexperienced to build up their speed and sensitivity skills as needed. |
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stonecrusher69
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Styles: MCM WING CHUN
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Alan Armstrong wrote: |
Thanks stonecrusher69.
What I understand, is that the Fut Sao is an earlier Wing Chun system, which is more softer and internal (pacifist based or Buddha influenced) than the rest that practice Chi Sao?
(As Sifu R. Williams has been highly criticized for his lack of sensitivity)
(As Ip Man, didn't give his students any control over the center line when doing Chi Sao)
This is now considered to not be used while practicing Chi Sao, as both practioners should benefit from this exercise, or the more experienced giving some slack for the inexperienced to build up their speed and sensitivity skills as needed. |
I try to avoid saying this is older, more internal because it tends to get some people upset so I just leave it up to the reader to decide for them self. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/sifumcilwrath
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