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MatsuShinshii
Black Belt
Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Posts: 1423
Location: Kentucky
Styles: Machimura Suidi Rokudan, Ryukyu Kenpo, Kobudo, Judo
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:55 pm Post subject: Chinkuchi |
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How many have heard of this and how many understand this? _________________ The person who succeeds is not the one who holds back, fearing failure, nor the one who never fails-but the one who moves on in spite of failure.
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mushybees
Orange Belt
Joined: 16 Nov 2014
Posts: 199
Location: UK
Styles: Wado ryu
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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I shant lie, I had to google it but yes I do know what it is and do understand it. We sometimes incorrectly use the term kime.
It's basically aligning the body and creating momentary tension to efficiently transfer our mass during striking followed by immediate dropping of energy to relax and not hinder any successive movements. |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16386
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Control!!
Our Soke describes Chinkuchi as it's when the ENTIRE BODY MATURES at one single moment of time, i.e., for a firm stance, a powerful punch, or a strong deflection/receiving; not before, and not after!!
To soon, useless...too late, useless; wasted movements...wasted energy...wasted life!! Knowing just when to relax and when to tense!! It's an everlasting endeavor for a many Okinawan practitioners; a lifetime of perfecting.
Chinkuchi can be described as the Yin and Yang of control; either one can or one can't!!
_________________ **Proof is on the floor!!! |
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mushybees
Orange Belt
Joined: 16 Nov 2014
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Location: UK
Styles: Wado ryu
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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sensei8 wrote: |
Our Soke describes Chinkuchi as it's when the ENTIRE BODY MATURES at one single moment of time. |
I like that |
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Spartacus Maximus
Black Belt
Joined: 01 Jun 2014
Posts: 1901
Styles: Shorin ryu
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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“Chinkuchi” along with the associated concepts of “gamaku” and “muchimi” are not usually known outside Okinawan karate. Even in Okinawa few sensei go into detail on these concepts except for a few seniors.
They cannot be blamed though, because explaining these concepts is not easy and requires an advanced knowledge and understanding of physical anatomy(musculature and skeleton) as well as body-mechanics.
After a mere 5 years of training it in under an Okinawan sensei who insists on it, all attempts to put it into a coherent explanation are simplistic at best. All that can be said with this level of understanding is that “chinkuchi” is a method of power generation that involves simultaneous use of “dynamic tension” in stabilizing muscles of the body’s core; and optimal structural alignment. |
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MatsuShinshii
Black Belt
Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Posts: 1423
Location: Kentucky
Styles: Machimura Suidi Rokudan, Ryukyu Kenpo, Kobudo, Judo
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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mushybees wrote: |
sensei8 wrote: |
Our Soke describes Chinkuchi as it's when the ENTIRE BODY MATURES at one single moment of time. |
I like that |
Great definition Bob. I love it too. Can I use that? _________________ The person who succeeds is not the one who holds back, fearing failure, nor the one who never fails-but the one who moves on in spite of failure.
Charles R. Swindoll |
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MatsuShinshii
Black Belt
Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Posts: 1423
Location: Kentucky
Styles: Machimura Suidi Rokudan, Ryukyu Kenpo, Kobudo, Judo
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Spartacus Maximus wrote: |
“Chinkuchi” along with the associated concepts of “gamaku” and “muchimi” are not usually known outside Okinawan karate. Even in Okinawa few sensei go into detail on these concepts except for a few seniors.
They cannot be blamed though, because explaining these concepts is not easy and requires an advanced knowledge and understanding of physical anatomy(musculature and skeleton) as well as body-mechanics.
After a mere 5 years of training it in under an Okinawan sensei who insists on it, all attempts to put it into a coherent explanation are simplistic at best. All that can be said with this level of understanding is that “chinkuchi” is a method of power generation that involves simultaneous use of “dynamic tension” in stabilizing muscles of the body’s core; and optimal structural alignment. |
I think that's a pretty good explanation Spartacus. Yes there is more to it but to explain it to the layman this is a pretty good way.
Thanks for the input. _________________ The person who succeeds is not the one who holds back, fearing failure, nor the one who never fails-but the one who moves on in spite of failure.
Charles R. Swindoll |
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Wastelander
KF Sensei
Joined: 18 Oct 2010
Posts: 2730
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Styles: Shorin-Ryu, Shuri-Ryu, Judo, KishimotoDi
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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I tend to simplify the explanation down to positions and movements of the body that are as structurally stable and efficient as possible. Of course, you can get into things like chinkuchi lines vs. chinkuchi points, and the like. _________________ Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf Karlsson
Shorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)
Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)
Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian Rivera
Illinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16386
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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MatsuShinshii wrote: |
mushybees wrote: |
sensei8 wrote: |
Our Soke describes Chinkuchi as it's when the ENTIRE BODY MATURES at one single moment of time. |
I like that |
Great definition Bob. I love it too. Can I use that? |
Yes you can use that, MatsuShinshii, and anyone else can too!!
_________________ **Proof is on the floor!!! |
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30167
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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