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Cable Dog
Yellow Belt
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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Location: Seattle, WA
Styles: Shudokan, Hayashi-ha Shito-ryu
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 Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:50 am Post subject: Choosing a style, help? |
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I've studied two types of Karate, which as I know it, is a defensive martial art. Both Shudokan, and Hayashi-ha Shito-ryu were helpful in many ways, but I am looking for something else.
I need help in choosing a more offensive martial art. Most of my "fights" are kumite with friends. But as the principle of Karate is that there is no "first hit" in Karate, it makes that difficult.
I favor the Cat Stance and Snake Style/Stance with an evasive/wait-for-an-opening game.
So my question is; Considering my background and favored styles, what martial art should I choose to study under to gain a more offensive tactic to my sparring/fighting?
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Lupin1
Black Belt
Joined: 15 Dec 2009
Posts: 1637
Location: Naples, FL
Styles: Isshinryu
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I just watched Karate Kid II last night, so I just have to throw this in here.
Miyagi Rules of Karate:
Rule Number One: "Karate for defense only."
Rule Number Two: "First learn Rule Number One."
I would suggest something the centers around sport fighting like boxing or MMA. And if those don't suit you, there's nothing wrong with mixing styles. Cross train in something like that to improve your offensive game and still train in the style you love for once your opponent start throwing strikes. |
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Kuma
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Soheir
Orange Belt
Joined: 20 Feb 2010
Posts: 176
Styles: Kyokushin karate
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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It's hard to say just based on what you just said... I'd say MMA too, maybe kickboxing/thaiboxing, BJJ...
Or check what styles the schools near at you have. They might teach styles that you haven't even thought about..
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Sokusen
Orange Belt
Joined: 29 Apr 2009
Posts: 110
Styles: Uechi-ryu
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Miyagi Rules of Karate:
Rule Number One: "Karate for defense only."
Rule Number Two: "First learn Rule Number One."
I love these rules! That being said just because Karate is for defense only dosen't mean you have to wait for someone to try and hit you. Somebody being threating and invading my personal space will easily be considered an aggresor and initiate the correct response to defend myself. Cable Dog, don't take things so literaly no matter what form of Karate you study you will always have to make it work for you. |
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joesteph
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Joined: 11 Aug 2008
Posts: 2753
Location: USA
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Sokusen wrote: |
Miyagi Rules of Karate:
Rule Number One: "Karate for defense only."
Rule Number Two: "First learn Rule Number One."
I love these rules! That being said . . . [s]omebody being threating and invading my personal space will easily be considered an aggresor and initiate the correct response to defend myself.
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They're excellent rules, and may be interpreted--just as "no first strike"--that you are practicing self-defense, not bullying others and starting fights to feed your ego.
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bushido_man96
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Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| joesteph wrote: |
| Sokusen wrote: |
Miyagi Rules of Karate:
Rule Number One: "Karate for defense only."
Rule Number Two: "First learn Rule Number One."
I love these rules! That being said . . . [s]omebody being threating and invading my personal space will easily be considered an aggresor and initiate the correct response to defend myself.
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They're excellent rules, and may be interpreted--just as "no first strike"--that you are practicing self-defense, not bullying others and starting fights to feed your ego. |
The main reason I don't adhere to or repeat these rules very much is because they are often taken too literally, and people start wondering why things don't work for them. I just prefer layman's terms.
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Jay
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Joined: 20 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| joesteph wrote: |
| Sokusen wrote: |
Miyagi Rules of Karate:
Rule Number One: "Karate for defense only."
Rule Number Two: "First learn Rule Number One."
I love these rules! That being said . . . [s]omebody being threating and invading my personal space will easily be considered an aggresor and initiate the correct response to defend myself.
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They're excellent rules, and may be interpreted--just as "no first strike"--that you are practicing self-defense, not bullying others and starting fights to feed your ego. |
The main reason I don't adhere to or repeat these rules very much is because they are often taken too literally, and people start wondering why things don't work for them. I just prefer layman's terms. |
I agree, most people take 'theres no first strike in karate' to mean that you not allowed to hit first. I usually think if your on the offense and hitting them its much better than standing there and trying to block. You can only block so much against many many hits, one will hit. Usually I can defend about twice beofore I get hit. When im blitzing the other guy he has the same problem. Be aware, hit the person when they are aggressive enough to warrant it and then keep hitting them until they drop or give up.
Im not advising people start fights but people that do have a big advantage. For instance getting hit from behind with a bottle or a punch usually starts and wins the fight in one shot.
I agree with either boxing or MMA or Muai Thai. Or being a bit biased JKD.
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16430
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| Sokusen wrote: |
Miyagi Rules of Karate:
Rule Number One: "Karate for defense only."
Rule Number Two: "First learn Rule Number One."
I love these rules! That being said . . . [s]omebody being threating and invading my personal space will easily be considered an aggresor and initiate the correct response to defend myself.
They're excellent rules, and may be interpreted--just as "no first strike"--that you are practicing self-defense, not bullying others and starting fights to feed your ego. |
I concur!!
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