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patusai
Black Belt
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Posts: 1648
Location: Palos Hills, IL
Styles: So Ryu, Shorin Ryu, Isshin Ryu
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Gen_Tora, That was very well put! |
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MartialArthur
Orange Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
Posts: 161
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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patusai, while I agree that it is a rediculous argument, you are missing an important point. The Bible does not say that you cannot call someone "father", but it does say that "you cannot serve two masters" (Mathew 6:24).
This is, of course, a silly argument because I don't know anyone who "serves" his MA master. |
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bald1rides
White Belt
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 22
Styles: Kenpo
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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I brought a piece of pumpkin cheese cake to my "Master" - he's an old dude who does not dwell on formality and doesn't insist on anyone calling him master. I don't think I was "serving" him, I do think I was doing an great old divorced guy a homemade dessert type favour. The best kind of favour IMO. _________________ "When you can balance a tack hammer on your head, then you can head off your foes with a balanced attack!" |
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Zorba
Orange Belt
Joined: 07 Jun 2004
Posts: 158
Location: Australia
Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Shotokan Karate
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:32 am Post subject: |
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its a different meaning of master
hell, isnt a young male called a master too?
what about chefs, there are master chefs too.
master = instructor = sensai (in karate) etc etc
not master = boss = you say and i do master _________________ It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong, and I am NOT a big man.
Tae Kwon Do (ITF) - 1st Dan Black Belt
Shotokan Karate - 6th Kyu |
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dtstiachi
Red Belt
Joined: 28 Dec 2004
Posts: 755
Location: Dallas TX
Styles: Tai Chi, Kotana Karate, Bagua
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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I am a Christian and I am currentlty studying to be a pastor. I have no problem calling a sensei or teacher "master." He or she has worked hard and obtained that rank and I will call them that out of respect for the rank. It is not a "worship" issue, but a respect one in my book. _________________ "The journey of a 1,000 miles starts with but a single step." |
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Spirit At Choice
Orange Belt
Joined: 24 Jan 2006
Posts: 215
Location: USA
Styles: Cuong Nhu
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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TangSooGuy wrote: |
To me..."master" is the title granted to me by my association. It is basically short for "master instructor", and not that I feel like I am anyone's master, but I do think i've become a pretty decent teacher over the last 20 years... |
I always thought of it as short for "Master of XYZ Martial Art." I never thought of it as my Master. _________________ White belt mind. Black belt heart.
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Rejoice and be glad! |
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30167
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: Christians and the rank of master |
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This is how I feel about this situation: Do you still call your doctor Dr. Smith, or do you refuse to recoginize his station? What about teachers? This is how I view the master title; it is a station achieved in the MA community, and it should not be offensive to anyone of a religious manner. _________________ www.haysgym.com
http://www.sunyis.com/
www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com |
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WudangDragon
Yellow Belt
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 76
Location: Glasgow,Scotland
Styles: Lang Jun Kuen Lau Gar Kung Fu
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Im fine with calling my Sifu exactly that because the way I see it, he (or she - depends on your situation obviously) has worked and trained very hard to obtain his knowledge and should therefore be respected for this.
However, I feel I have been without faith for a long time and am considering looking to find an alternative religion (im currently Catholic). The main religions I'd look into are Zen-Bhuddism and Taoism. _________________ "We follow the World,
The World follows Heaven,
Heaven follows Tao,
Tao follows the way things are." |
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lordtariel
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 1709
Location: Oregon
Styles: (Past)Judo, Yang Family Tai Chi, (Current)Shito-Ryu Karate, Kobudo(Tonfajitsu)
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: |
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I believe that you're taking things too literally. I believe the bible is refering to master in the spiritual sense not the physical sense. If you follow somone and serve them as if they were god, then you have a problem. _________________ There's no place like 127.0.0.1 |
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HongKongFooey
Yellow Belt
Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 76
Location: Baltimore
Styles: American Kenpo
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know why people let religion get in the way of an activity they enjoy. Is it guilt? Fear? Someone help me to understand, here. _________________ Welcome to McDojo's! One supersize blackbelt coming right up sir!
At Mcdojo's, your ability to succeed is only limited by the size of your wallet, and we back that up in writing! |
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